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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Nom withdrew; and other keep rationales Wifione ....... Leave a message 16:25, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Markwitz

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Article fails WP:ANYBIO and WP:ONEVENT, one Academy Avard nomination is not enough. Armbrust Talk Contribs 16:46, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per above. Jay-Sebastos (talk) 17:52, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as above - anybody who can build up this list and an oscar nomination is notable enough for me. bobrayner (talk) 18:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. WP:ONEVENT doesn't apply, but the subject fails WP:ANYBIO: "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honour, or has been nominated for one several times". Winning an Academy Award confers notability, as does being nominated more than once; being nominated just once doesn't. And despite a seemingly impressive list of credits, the subject also fails WP:CREATIVE, in that his work overall appears to have attracted no significant attention -- numerous hits on GBooks all boil down to a passing mention in lists of credits. I haven't been able to find any RS that discusses him or his work, and he doesn't even have an article on the German Wikipedia. Jimmy Pitt talk 19:51, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Sufficient career achievement to merit inclusion. Being nominated for an academy award is itself a high honor, we're not talking about 3rd Place at the Athens, Georgia Festival of Cartoon Shorts here... —Carrite, Sept. 27, 2010.
Comment. While the Academy Awards are prestigious and being nominated may be considered an honour, it doesn't confer notability per the guidelines. Nor does a lifetime's achievement of non-notable works. The subject may be a worthy craftsman, justifiably respected for his achievements, but that has nothing to do with whether he's notable. If someone could find some reliable and significant sources I'd reconsider, but I found nothing. Jimmy Pitt talk 07:38, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Jimmy... do you live in Germany? And if so, do you have access to hardcopy news archives from the pre-internet film era 1936 through 1967? And I would sadly have to suppose that many German hardcopy media sources from 1936 through 1945 did not survive WW2... but some might still exist in Universities. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 03:35, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep It is to be noted that in 1954, the Academy Awards were much harder to be nominated for, and there were far, far, far fewer of them even given out. If the nomination was from last year, I might agree that "just one" nomination might not be worth considering... and that we'd have to dig through the hundreds (if not thousands) of nominated individuals in dozens and dozens of categories to find his name. But 56 years ago? The nomination itself was a quite unique, notable, and special accolade to one's craft... and meant a whole lot more than it does today. And too, the ANYBIO seems more designed to guide us in modern assessments of contemporary artists, and would a have a somewhat less imperative application in dismissing an event from 56 years ago. This person had a very full career in film from 1936 until 1967... nothing to sneeze at... and yes, his work received the honor of his peers. And it must also be noted that a great deal of his work were projects done waaaaay pre-internet... wartime Germany and post-war West Germany... works that did not have American or English-language releases... so it's time to start asking German Wikipedians to check their nation's archives for pre-internet hardcopy sources of magazines and newspapers... souces that do not exist here in the West. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 03:35, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nomination withdrawn per the comment of MichaelQSchmidt. Mayve ANYBIO should be modified to reflect such cases. Armbrust Talk Contribs 15:11, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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