Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pooja Misrra (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The 'keep' !votes are some of the better examples of arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. Daniel (talk) 20:18, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pooja Misrra

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This is a BLP about a reality show participant, model, and VJ. There are no claims to notability per WP:ENT in the article: reality show participants are not automatically notable, and the award she won, "Best Entertainer on TV" is not a notable award. In fact, when I was trying to find a source for that, to find out who awards "Best Entertainer", I only got search hits for this person. This (which is not a reliable source) says that the award is the "Aapki Awaaz media awards", which is conspicuously absent from all reliable sources or news reports.

As for WP:GNG, she has been written about to some extent. Most sources are primary or not reliable, but there are a couple of sources such as this one – the problem is that the non-primary coverage is almost exclusively about the subject's conflicts with other people, and there is no sign of any long-term relevance or importance. In a word, fighting with other reality show participants, or accusing the neighbours of attacking you with black magic, are not topics to base a BLP on, and there is clearly no lasting importance to any of the storm-in-a-teacup fights. This source is a very good gauge of her notability: not even the gossip rag Republic World knows anything, beyond the unsourced info that was in this WP article before it was cleaned up. bonadea contributions talk 18:52, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. bonadea contributions talk 18:52, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. bonadea contributions talk 18:52, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:15, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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KEEP - she’s a notable and worldwide known personality for her meme and participation on Bigg Boss.Positiveilluminati (talk) 08:56, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any reliable independent sources that show that she is notable? The notability requirements for actors and celebrities are here, and the general notability criteria for people are here and here. --bonadea contributions talk 09:23, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also can you please add this to the category of Indian media Personalities for a fair judgement the categories are not befitting. Positiveilluminati (talk) 08:56, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean that the article should be added to another category, or that this discussion should be listed somewhere else, in addition to the four lists it is placed on? Which (exact) category or list do you mean? The deletion sorting lists are very broad – you'll find all of them here. --bonadea contributions talk 09:23, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For deletion? So the Indian community can speak on this matter. Why is it that this article remained on mainspace for years and now suddenly when I’ve made an edit this comes to deletion? Can we get more opinions on this rather just you and I? Positiveilluminati (talk) 13:28, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/India, and there is no specific deletion sorting list for media personalities (of any nationality). However, since this discussion is also listed in three other places, it is advertised as widely as possible. Deletion discussions are usually open for 7 - 10 days, to give people a chance to give their input. --bonadea contributions talk 22:57, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I concur what bonadea has said above. I do not see anything that helps the subject pass WP:GNG and there ain't much indications of WP:ENT or WP:NACTOR likewise. ─ The Aafī ^{^(talk)} 06:37, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
How come this was on mainspace for so long and now this decision is being made? Positiveilluminati (talk) 06:57, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If a bad article exists in the mainspace for more than a decade, "it doesn't get the notability inherited". Wikipedia articles are subject to WP:N, those which fail get deleted. ─ The Aafī ^{^(talk)} 07:31, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If you wish to get the article kept, then please help to demonstrate notability by showing the sources that help the subject to pass WP:GNG, or simply any subjective criteria, WP:ENT in this case. ─ The Aafī ^{^(talk)} 07:32, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
One of the criteria is that the person must create or do a significant work? She literally created the meme “Pooja what is this behaviour” she’s on my for you page on TikTok STILL. case should be closed I’m pretty fair I don’t even know this person or anyone’s I’ve fought for and am neutral Positiveilluminati (talk) 14:37, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP - she's iconic123.208.83.210 (talk) 10:09, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per bonadea, the difficulty finding independent and reliable sources to support notability per applicable guidelines, and per WP:BLP policy, e.g. it is not Wikipedia's job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives; the possibility of harm to living subjects must always be considered when exercising editorial judgment, which covers the majority of the sources I found. While I also found a brief WP:SECONDARY mention of the meme in The Print, it does not appear to be enough to support notability for a BLP. Beccaynr (talk) 14:38, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I am aware and I know that What is this behaviour Pooja was viral and is practically a lingo amongst young Indians who watch television and beyond. But, an artist, should have their notability established through the conversations about their work and not because they accidentally got viral (There are usually no rhyme or reason for folks getting viral. It just happens). Fails notability test. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 16:59, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP She’s well known for doing something new in the Western countries too.Somethingniceau (talk) 11:37, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Bonadea, Keep votes are less policy based more WP:ILIKEIT. Lavalizard101 (talk) 12:43, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Wikipedia what is this behaviour?? I’m sorry I nominated it by mistake. You can’t nominate by mistake. Pooja is known worldwide for the what is this behaviour meme and I searched up her wiki to find out it’s been nominated?? KeepWilkoswifi (talk) 13:17, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Lacks WP:SIGCOV in independent reliable sources. Mere particiaption in reality shows doesn't meet WP:ENT; Bigg Boss contestants in particular are expected to be notable for works outside of their participation in the show per WP:BIGBROTHER. -- Ab207 (talk) 14:40, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.