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Rape during the Bangladesh Liberation War

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I've listed this article for peer review because… I am hoping to get the article to FA status and require input from uninvolved editors. Thanks, Darkness Shines (talk) 02:23, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Comments

• I usually spend some time on military history peer reviews ... on this one, I see you did respond to some of Nick-D's comments during the FAC for this article, but many of the things he objected to weren't addressed. I generally find Nick to be quite clueful, and I'd like to see more action on comments from the FAC before I make any new comments here. It would, of course, be great to have a featured article on this subject, especially on both a country and a topic that are important and underrepresented on Wikipedia. - Dank (push to talk) 03:19, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

I thought I had covered them. Can you let me know what I have missed please. I am hoping to grab STFG to copyedit it again before it goes up for FA. Darkness Shines (talk) 12:13, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

• Sure. I'll repeat a few sentences from Nick's comments (without quote marks) about specific sentences that you may or may not have tackled already ... I don't see any changes to the article text in response. See his full comments, please:
  • ... many sentences are rather breathless (for instance, the first sentence)
  • It would have been extremely difficult for Pakistan to have prevented its two halves from being cut off from each other, no matter what forces were stationed where, given the country's geography.
  • "Observers suggested" - who were these 'observers'?
  • Most of the 'International reaction' section appears to be referring to the international reaction against all of the atrocities, and has no focus on the rapes.
• I'd like to add on Nick's last point: at the Military History Project, we deal with really heart-wrenching topics on a daily basis, with less than our share of wiki-drama. There are a number of tricks to keeping the drama manageable ... one is staying on topic. I'd like to see more articles about genocide in Bangladesh ... but I don't want to see a whole section on international reactions to genocide but not war rape in this article, because this article is about war rape. - Dank (push to talk) 13:01, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

The problem with the international reactions is that politicians tend to lump all atrocities in as one. Hence very few sources that I can find refer directly to reactions regarding the rapes.

This article should mostly stay on the topic of the rapes ... it's fine to provide context, so that people understand what happened, or understand that it was likely that it would happen, but a whole section of reactions where you don't mention the rapes is too long off-topic for this article ... it would be fine in other articles. - Dank (push to talk)

I have looked over the article but am buggered if I can see "Observers suggested" can you put a clarify tag on it?

It's in the third paragraph of the Aftermath section. - Dank (push to talk)

Re the two halves bit, that can be dropped easily enough. Would the history project be able to find sources for the international reactions? I have not worked wit ha project before so have no idea what they do. Darkness Shines (talk) 13:35, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Our project is quite active ... if you post a request on our talk page, WT:MIL, you'll probably get some help. - Dank (push to talk)

Looking at the source for that line now, it just says observers and gives no name of groups nor individuals. Should it be cut?

I would cut it if nothing more specific is found. - Dank (push to talk) 13:56, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

I can try and find a better source as well. I will search again fir international reactions to the rapes, it ain't easy, this is a forgotten crime. Thanks for your suggestions. Darkness Shines (talk) 14:10, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this to peer review. - Dank (push to talk) 13:56, 2 January 2013 (UTC)