Talk:卜

Mandarin pronunciation

Why is the Mandarin pronunciation different from those given at 蔔, when this is the simplified version of 蔔? 24.93.170.200 00:38, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

When used for words such as radish (蘿蔔／萝卜). Otherwise 卜 is bǔ, and means to divine (see: oracle bone). -- A-cai 23:04, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

This is helpful information; I think this information should be added to both articles for maximum clarity. If an alternate pronunciation is used, even just in 萝卜 and variants of this such as 红萝卜, this pronunciation should be presented in the Mandarin section. 24.93.170.200 00:44, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I have added the information to the entries for 蔔 and 卜. I have also posted a note at Wiktionary:Beer parlour#problem with the Hanzi header, because I think there are instances (such as this) where the Hanzi section is overly confusing to readers (like you). -- A-cai 08:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, that's great. My understanding of the definitions in the "Hanzi" header would be the "common," "original," or "standard" meanings of the character, whereas "newer" meanings or idiosyncratic "misunderstandings" by Koreans or Japanese that are different from the original "standard" meaning would appear under each language's section. 24.93.170.200 08:31, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

No no, you're thinking of the "Han character" header at the top (under the translingual section). I'm talking about the "Hanzi" header in the Mandarin section. You're proving my point about how confusing it is. -- A-cai 10:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, yeah--that is confusing. 24.93.170.200 19:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)