User talk:Doug butler

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February 2008

Welcome, and thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test on the page Samuel Beckett worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment further, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Please do not sign the article mainspaces; signatures are only for talk pages. Enviroboy^Talk_Cs 05:42, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User talk archives

BTW how does one create a User talk archive? Doug butler (talk) 21:51, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There are lots of ways it can be done, some of them automatic, but I've had no success with the automatic ones, (and anyway, being the control freak that I am, I actually prefer to have control over what's happening.)

So I do it manually. And there are several ways you can do that, too.

Probably/possibly the easiest/best way to do it, (certainly a better way to do it than what I do, but I only discovered this method in the last year - had I discovered it earlier, I would probably use it), is the two step process:

1) Use "move page" to rename your talk page (e.g. move "User talk:Doug butler" to "User talk:Doug butler/Archive 1")

2) "User talk:Doug butler" will then become a redirect to "User talk:Doug butler/Archive 1". Edit "User talk:Doug butler" - remove the redirect and replace it with the stuff (copied from "User talk:Doug butler/Archive 1") that you like having on the top of your talk page.

Then, next time you want to archive, move "User talk:Doug butler" to "User talk:Doug butler/Archive 2"

Etc.

Hope that helps. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:38, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. That seems to have worked. Doug butler (talk) 15:00, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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David Low caricature tagging

Dear Doug, Thank you very much for contributing all those delightful caricatures! Would it perhaps be possible for you to replace {{PD-US-expired}} with {{PD-US-expired-abroad|2034}} in the licensing section? That would tell people what's going on and help move them to Commons as soon as their Australian copyright expires. Felix QW (talk) 07:08, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Felix QW: Thanks for the suggestion; I think I understand what you mean and I concur heartily. But do you have any suggestions as to how my collection (some 325 files, listed at User:Doug butler/David Low caricatures 1915) can be uploaded more expeditiously? And that is no criticism of the upload wizard, which worked wonderfully. Doug butler (talk) 11:37, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hm... At Commons, people use all sorts of mass-upload gadgets that I am unfamiliar with, and which probably would not work for local uploading to Wikipedia.

However, have you tried Special:Upload to see if that makes it easier? I found it to require less mouse clicks than the wizard, which speeds things up a bit. Felix QW (talk) 12:37, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, yes. That was the one I used. A masterpiece of functionality. I will do as you suggest. Doug butler (talk) 13:27, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mr. Doug Butler

My Viennese relative Karl Selinger will be articled later due to the fact that I am working at the moment onto finish a book. Ha was the protegee of Josef Lang (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Lang_(Henker) )

There do exist a lot of articles/sources wherein he is mentioned but in context to Josef Lang and in German language:

https://www.bmi.gv.at/magazinfiles/2010/05_06/files/justizgeschichte.pdf

https://www.bmi.gv.at/magazinfiles/2016/03_04/files/kriminalgeschichte.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20051110233729/http://www.wienerzeitung.at/Desktopdefault.aspx?TabID=3946&Alias=wzo&lexikon=Tod&letter=T&cob=5787

https://www.oesta.gv.at/veroeffentlichungen/archivale-des-monats/archivale-des-monats-november-21.html

Is it ok to set cits to another language?

Same about Bonifaz Sellinger [de] (1912–2002), Austrian Benedictine abbot he has also been a memeber of my familiar environment. Language here is also a transforming mean of communication. Therefore Selinger and Sellinger are ment to be the same. An article should also follow.

Regards Rollomatik Rollomatik (talk) 10:15, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Verifiability#Non-English_sources covers use of non-English sources. If I understand it right, references in languages other than English (LOTE) are welcomed but preferably with a reliable English translation. Can you find anything written in English in a reputable reference work, sufficient to start an article, if so, I'd be pleased to assist. Doug butler (talk) 12:30, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Doug Butler, thanks for the answer, yes, you got that right.

I look forward to coming back later when there is more time for an article! I think it is fine to write an article in English or in another language, but if the referring sources exist (only) in another language, they should be used authentically, or be allowed to refer to a different language page in Wikipedia (and Google Translate does the rest). The same applies here in German-speaking countries, if sources exist in another language (e.g. in English), they should be cited in their original language, or point to it. Some names in combination with other professions, some with references to other languages too, or when no article is available, have been left in Wikipedia. Does it also depend a bit on the administrators and/or the profession of the person mentioned?

Have a nice day. Rollomatik (talk) 06:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Doug Butler - question

Hi Doug, you have added amazing content and detail on the Solomon family (SA and NSW). I am a direct Solomon family descendant and would really appreciate if could ask a question on the source of one piece of information? Thank you, Mark 2001:8003:295B:200:512D:E4A6:1783:EF33 (talk) 11:51, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will help if I can; what is the problem?

P.S. by a curious coincidence, while making some edits on the Townsend Duryea article, I stumbled on another nice Solomon story. Check it out — you don't need to read the whole article, just "Notes" above the "References". Doug butler (talk) 23:38, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Balwin Spencer 104 - Orig.jpg

A tag has been placed on File:Balwin Spencer 104 - Orig.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image is an unused duplicate or lower-quality copy of another file on Wikipedia having the same file format, and all inward links have been updated.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Jonteemil (talk) 12:57, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No contest The picture was saved under a misspelled title, and contained that error in the artwork. Doug butler (talk) 23:42, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question for Doug Butler - from yesterday

Hi Doug, had to create an account to continue. I am interested in the Wiki info on Vaiben Solomon's son Edwin Arthur Vaiben Solomon (20 September 1877 – 2 December 1963) and his wife Jessie Elizabeth Black. This Wiki page notes Jessie as Aboriginal stolen generation and raised by the Black family. I am not sure if you know who made this edit or contribution and the possible source? Appreciate any guidance you may have. Thanks Mark P.S Like the Townsend Duryea story - back then eloping was a crime, while marrying a cousin was not (times changed!) MarcoBonzo (talk) 11:47, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have reluctantly reverted the assertion and amended birth year. Reluctantly, as the changes made by the IP editor look bona fide.

"new shortcut"

There's discussion at T369993. We wonder if always having the sticky header (which would result in the entire first line being hidden) is a preferable solutoin. Aaron Liu (talk) 14:43, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Doug, follow up

Thanks Doug, wasn't looking for a deletion or correction as it is quite possibly true/accurate. No way I can know/contact the editor who made it? MarcoBonzo (talk) 04:37, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can see the benefit in references when making radical assertions. A pity there's no way of contacting the IP user; all we can do is geolocate them to Sydney. There is an interesting comment by one Karen Wilbur, at the bottom of Quinlan's blog.. Check it out, It may be relevant to your query. Tomorrow I start looking for a copy of Jennings and Benkendorff A Tribute to Lance Vaiben Solomon (1913–1989). As you know, blogs are deprecated as a source, and Quinlan claims he's using that book as a source.

Oh, and no need for you to start a new subject, just keep adding on to this thread. Doug butler (talk) 11:48, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Victor James and William Bottomley

Hello,

I'm having trouble following the history of the Victor James page. Do you think it would be appropriate at this point to make a separate page for William Bottomley? Sminthopsis84 (talk) 00:50, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback. I remember being quite immersed in the story, then stopped when I'd exhausted my sources and haven't looked back, but welcome criticism and suggestions. Do you have any leads for me? Doug butler (talk) 01:20, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be helpful to tease apart two articles, and to create one for Melbourne Unitarian Church to parallel Sydney Unitarian Church. What do you think? Sminthopsis84 (talk) 02:49, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well the article is OK as it stands considering the reference I have, and it seemed to make a coherent story, but the ball is now on your side of the net. Cheers, Doug butler (talk) 05:09, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Simpson

On the page for Simpson, you reverted my edit removing The Simpsons from the "most often refers to" section. You said that the show is simply called "Simpson" in Australia. I don't live in Australia, but I've never heard the show simply be called "Simpson." I removed it because it was a random edit made by an anonymous IP from somewhere in Jamaica, which is nowhere near Australia. I was wondering if we could discuss it here. GilaMonster536 (talk) 22:43, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Haha — we are talking at cross-purposes. Your explanation for deletion was "The Simpsons is more often called "Simpsons"", which I stupidly took to mean "without the definite article". I restored the entry as harmless and possibly helpful as it's the way most people would immediately associate the surname "Simpson", with or without the plural -s. Best wishes, Doug butler (talk) 23:20, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]