Talk:Jungle Cruise (film)

Headlines

• Interview: Walt Disney Pictures Chairman Dick Cook —Erik (talk • contrib) - 23:36, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

The African Queen inflluence?

Has anyone noticed how this is more similar to "The African Queen" in terms of plot? Visokor (talk) 07:35, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

It seems closer to "POC: On Stranger Tides" or the Indiana Jones series than it does to "African Queen" which was more of an escape movie set on a river rather than a treasure hunt. "River of No Return" or the "River Wild" has similar settings as African Queen. The overall plot is pretty much a composite of many other treasure hunters/adventure movies. PNW Raven (talk) 12:00, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

August 10, 2021

Hi User:PNW Raven! Kindly see Special:Diff/1037767726 and Special:Diff/1037968288, and please comment before making an unexplained change. Thanks! M. Billoo 15:26, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

It was too minor of a change to warrant a discussion, and was only to clarify that Joachim's actions were not two-fold. He only freed the conquistadors for the purpose of getting their assistance. The way it was worded sounded as if his freeing them was a separate act, but then in addition to that, he also asked for their help.PNW Raven (talk) 18:05, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jungle Cruise (film)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk · contribs) 02:33, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Hey, I'm going to be reviewing this article. Expect comments by the end of the week. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 02:33, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Add WP:ALT text to the infobox's image.

 Done

• John Requa is not credited for the screenplay.

Maybe an anonymous Special:Diff/1040144389

• Avoid having citations in the infobox.

 Fixed

• Avoid having citations in the lead.

 Fixed

• "... following the success of Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl the year prior" – this is not mentioned in the body

 Fixed

• Add a WP:GEOCOMMA after "Atlanta, Georgia".

 Fixed

Plot and cast

• Some notes are sourced and others are not. Why?

 Fixed

• Several of these notes should also state that they are translations.

 Fixed

• "La Luna Rota" actually means "The Broken Moon".

 Fixed

• "the trio depart" → "the trio departs" (American English)

 Fixed

• Why is "cannibal" in quotes?

 Fixed

• "A tribe in the Amazon which guards the Tree" – why is this a note and not part of the summary?

 Fixed

• "Tears of the Moon, a mythical tree whose flowers cure illness, heal injuries, and lift curses" – why is this also a note and not part of the summary?

 Fixed

• "Frank's puns are inspired from the skipper's lines on the original theme park ride." – This should be mentioned in the body of the article, not a note.

 Fixed

• "Boat is" → "The boat is".

 Fixed

• his interest lies "elsewhere" – WP:EASTEREGG

 Fixed

• "A somewhat foppish snob who adheres to proper etiquette and prefers wearing three-piece suits." – why the sudden stop?

 Fixed

• "Rosita" name is → The name "Rosita" is

 Fixed

• "at the Disneyland" → "at Disneyland"

 Fixed

• Ben Jenkin is not mentioned in this article.

 Fixed

• "Dani Rovira, Quim Gutiérrez, and Dan Dargan Carter portray Aguirre's fellow conquistadors: Sancho, who is covered in honey and bees, Melchor, who is made out of mud with frogs, and Gonzalo, who is composed of roots and tree branches." – source?

 Fixed

• "mud with frogs" – reword

 Fixed

• Overall, avoid having so many notes in these sections and integrate them into the actual article.
• "As depicted in the film, Lágrimas de Cristal (Tears of the Moon) is a mythical Tree hidden in the La Luna Rota (The Broken Moon) Waterfall. A brokenhearted warrior has shot his arrow to make the moon cry, which has grown the Tree. The arrowhead artifact is protected by the tribal chief's daughter in 1556 away from the jungle. It is later acquired by Dr. Albert Falls, and is kept in London, from where Lily steals it in 1916." – this still feels wrong as a note.

Check please

Looks good. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 17:05, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Production and music

• I think the Disney press kit might have more information not currently mentioned in the article.

 Working

Aside of the pdf, just found this website having brief info regarding the Post Production. Can the section be expanded from here? Other refs include [1] [2]. Will work on it this weekend because extracting and summarizing needs time... M. Billoo 13:24, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

• @M.Billoo2000: Great expansion! Please send me a message when you're done. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 17:05, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

@Some Dude From North Carolina: check please. M. Billoo 17:32, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

September update

• "inspired by the theme park attraction of the same name" – this link seems misleading. Consider "inspired by the theme park attraction of the same name".
• Move the reference after "the theme park attraction of the same name" to the end of the sentence it is in.
• Remove the comma after "written by Goldstein and Norville".
• "and the film produced by John Davis and John Fox" – reword
• "announced in April 2017 to co-produce" → "announced in April 2017 that he would co-produce"
• "Before casting Falcón, the Trader Sam, inspired by a character at the theme park who is originally a male, was still under decision whether to be portrayed by a male or a female in the film." → "Before Falcón was cast as the Trader Sam, a role inspired by a character at the theme park who is originally a male, it was being discussed whether the role would be portrayed by a male or a female in the film."
• "shoot spell" – what's that?
• Most of #Marketing is not about marketing. Per WP:TRAILER, do not include events like a "surprise visit at Disneyland." The sentence "Johnson shared that the film pays homage to The African Queen, Romancing the Stone and Indiana Jones" should have a serial comma. It should also be moved, alongside the second paragraph, to a different section (possibly in #Production or in #Cast).
• In #Music, the line "The soundtrack album was released on July 30, 2021" is unsourced.
• The track listing does not appear to be necessary (see WP:FILMSCORE).

@Some Dude From North Carolina:  Done and  Fixed all M. Billoo 03:07, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Release, reception, and future

• Add a WP:DATECOMMA after July 30, 2021.
• Add a WP:DATECOMMA after July 29, 2021.
• Add a WP:DATECOMMA after October 11, 2019.
• Add "the" before "COVID-19 delta variant".
• Updated the film's box office numbers.
• "needs to gross around $500 million" → "needed to gross around $500 million"
• Add a comma after both uses of "its second weekend".
• "with some noting the film managed to finish above projections while some" → "with some noting the film managed to finish above projections while others"
• "$9.1 million" was updated by Deadline Hollywood to simply "$9 million"
• "France ($1.7 million)" → "France ($1.6 million)" (updated)
• South Korea and North Korea are put together under a single category. So change "South Korea ($1.2 million)" to "Korea ($1.2 million)", "47 countries" to "47 markets", and "49 countries" to "49 markets".
• Update the title for the reference after The Suicide Squad.
• See WP:RECEPTION for how to summarize a film's reception (see Old as an example).
• "the release weekend of the Jungle Cruise" → "the release weekend of Jungle Cruise"

Done and Fixed all; but kindly help for the Reception :(

The usage of quotes has been reduced so it looks good now :) Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 22:53, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

References

• Please avoid having extensions like ".com" in the "website" parameters.
• Also replace all "publisher" parameters with "website" per MOS:ITALICS.
• Use this template to cite Box Office Mojo.
• Deadline → Deadline Hollywood
• "(EXCLUSIVE)" → "(Exclusive)" (WP:ALLCAPS)
• Wikipedia has listed Inquisitr as an unreliable source.

 Done and  Fixed all

Progress

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

@Some Dude From North Carolina: Thank you so much for guiding me for making it my first work as WP:GA. Also thanks to other fellow editors. M. Billoo 03:50, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 10:13, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that to animate conquistadors in Jungle Cruise, frogs were recorded from Costa Rica forest? Source: [3]
  • ALT1:... that Jungle Cruise's puns are inspired from the original skipper's lines from the namesake theme park ride the film was based on? Source: [4]

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Balloon popping

Improved to Good Article status by M.Billoo2000 (talk). Nominated by Pamzeis (talk) at 08:42, 4 September 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: New and long enough as a recent GA nomination, article is well sourced covering all material, and a QPQ is done. Please go with the ALT1 hook, as that is more interesting to this article since it relates it back to the ride it's based on. One note, which won't hold up the DYK nom, but many references in the article (including the ALT1 source) have the unnecessary "AMP" in their links. All the citations and archives should be the direct article links, and this should ultimately be addressed in the article. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:31, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

It's taken forever for me to remember to put this here but I actually prefer ALT0 as it seems more quirky and hooky to me... I'll let the promoter decide on this. Pamzeis (talk) 13:09, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

To T:DYK/P4

@Pamzeis and Favre1fan93: thanks to you both for appreciating, and congrats on further taking it to DYK. Since I have contributed mostly from my mobile device, there are links which open as mobile version giving "AMP"; I agree that URLs be reduced to original working forms. M. Billoo 03:50, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

@Favre1fan93: Hi! I have corrected the links by removing AMP from them, as you suggested. But now I am unable to use #IABot as it says, "Analysis error: You have been blocked from editing". Kindly use it if possible (CC: Some Dude From North Carolina and admin Ponyo), Thanks! M. Billoo 09:19, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

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December 12, 2021

Hi EEBuchanan, thanks for your contributions! There are some concerns I wanted to share.

• Per WP:FILMCAST, only billed cast are briefed in bullets. The non-billed cast, regardless of their popularity or notability, were briefed in a prose instead. Film poster can clarify the billed cast.
• Per WP:OVERLINK, countries name should not be linked; here, in case, London and Germany.
• Some names are not notable in the plot, like "Francisco Lopez de Heredia, Aguierre's cartographer"; this is already briefed in the cast section.
• You wrote, "After failing to find the tree after three centuries, Frank allowed the arrowhead to go to a museum as an artifact, and became a tour guide."
  In my opinion, the artifact was protected by the daughter of the dying chief in 1556, away from the jungle. Later, it was founded by someone else, not Frank. So then it was kept in London museum from where Lily steals centuries later. So, what is meant by "Frank allowed the arrowhead to go"?
• You wrote, "Meanwhile, Prince Joachim locates the conquistadors, petrified inside a cave. He brings them within sight of the river and they are reanimated, though fused with elements of jungle plants and animals. They agree to find the arrowhead for him in exchange for flowers of the tree, and track down the Houghtons."
  In my opinion, Joachim "brings" (or distributes) the river flow by an explosion to the petrified ones, "after" partially reviving them; on only a conditional offer, worth mentioning, as Joachim uses it for his own interest as he later betrayed them. Again, no need of defining their appearance as it is already briefed below.
• Last, you wrote, "Current wordcount 695." You may check the previous version also, before it was overexpanded by some anonymous user.

Kindly check and comment, Thanks! M. Billoo 18:28, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Rtkat3, thanks for your contributions. Kindly see above message here. Also, you recently removed alt text for the poster in infobox; see further above in GA nomination, it was included there. Thanks! M. Billoo 11:32, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Since when did this website include alternative descriptions to movie posters? I'm just asking here. Also, the plot didn't mention that the conquistadors had their partially-decomposed bodies fused with their respectful aspect of the Amazon rainforest until now. --Rtkat3 (talk) 19:15, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi, M.Billoo2000. Sorry. I got logged out of my account, and could not get back in until today. I have edited MANY film plots and cast summaries on here since joining (mostly to correct grammar), and that was the first and only article, of literally dozens of article's I've seen, where the cast section looked like that. It was borderline unreadable, a big chunk of text with sentences that ran on, had no conjunctions, and had tenses all mixed up. Trying to find out who played what in that block of text was cumbersome and unnecessarily difficult. Far cleaner just to keep it a simple bulleted list. I will review the article and see if I can improve the grammar, and if there is a way to be more accurate while still keeping it concise. But I do not have time tonight, as I am getting ready for several events at the school I teach at. Thanks!

EEBuchanan (talk) 05:32, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi, good day! I have no problem with the grammar corrections. But I just tried to say here that there is no need of those details in the Plot section which are already defined in the Cast section. Also, I tried to explain the billed cast vs the supporting cast, as this film doesn't have all as in ensemble cast to be mentioned in bullets. Since I do not consider myself senior to you, I will leave this to Some Dude From North Carolina, the one who reviewed this article and passed for GA. Thanks! M. Billoo 06:45, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm sure my help is not needed. WP:FILMCAST says the billed cast should be in bullet points with the rest in a paragraph of prose. That's how many articles are formatted including Baby Driver, Bad Times at the El Royale, and the entirety of the MCU. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 01:49, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

M.Billoo2000Some Dude From North Carolina Very well. But I had never seen it before now, and I still think it makes the article clunky, less clean and organized, and difficult to read. It makes it hard to find who played which character, too. However, I will not change the credits on this article again, since I have been outvoted and do not want to be accused of edit warring/disruptive editing. Personally, I think that rule in the guidelines at some point needs a very serious review. Other "Good articles" of Disney films such as Toy Story, Toy Story 2, Toy Story 3, A Bug's Life, The Good Dinosaur, WALL-E, to name a few, and "good articles" of other films such as Shrek have their full casts written in nice neat bullet points (Wall-E's has some overly long explanation added which may need to be edited/removed, and I noticed someone messed up Shrek's plot summary with run on sentences again, so that also will need to be addressed. However, the cast lists haven't been reformatted in years, so those points/recent edits are not relevant to the issue at hand.) I will only address the grammar on this article from now on, but I do think someone with more time than I have at the moment really needs to revisit/seriously challenge that rule. Lists are obviously far more neat than blocks of text when trying to explain information that is in a series/needs to be tabulated to show connections. That is just plain common sense, I think. EEBuchanan (talk) 16:00, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

"Jungle Cruise (upcoming film)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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