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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 07:45, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

In-Place Count Sort

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Utter bunk; probably a hoax. The "sorting algorithm" presented here is just an obfuscated way of doing

for i from 0 to n:
 a[i] = i

No wonder there are no references. QVVERTYVS (hm?) 23:11, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete—I found one unverifiable cite in google books and no hits in google scholar. Ghits are also sparse. Not enough WP:RS to establish notability. Lesser Cartographies (talk) 18:44, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete for lack of reliable sources.-- danntm ^T _C 20:35, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete. This appears to be intended as an algorithm for in-place permutation, a problem with some history of actual research behind it (see [1]). But I don't think there's anything worth saving in the current article. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:50, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete as hoax. Stuartyeates (talk) 08:05, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete I suppose that it could be used as a simple example in In-place algorithm. I don't believe there are any research articles on it because it is of no practical or theoretical value. int i must equal the minimum integer in a sequence and the sequence must contain all of the integers between the minimum and maximum integers in a sequence with no repeats, otherwise the algorithm enters an infinite loop or an array out of bounds. I am One of Many (talk) 05:49, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was keep. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:17, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Joey Sturgis

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No indication of notability, no significant coverage in reliable sources. Of all the sources in the article, the interview is the only one that writes so much as a single sentence about Sturgis. The article was prodded for these reasons, the prod was removed by User:Joeyismusic without improvement. Huon (talk) 22:51, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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*Delete A single interview does not establish notability, and is a primary source. I see no fully independent coverage in reliable sources. Producing recordings by notable performers does not, in itself, confer notability. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:16, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

• Change to Keep, based on the best of the sources brought forward in this debate. Thanks to those who have done so. No one needs to insult me to get me to change my recommendation. Just show me the sources. Thanks. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:25, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

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Joey is a worldwide known producer and this page is incredibly educational to many, it's a great source for people wanting to find previous work of Joeys, it is also a 100% accurate source which is great for students of music wishing to do assignments/reports on him, if you do not believe he is notable then maybe you should check this http://www.allmusic.com/artist/joey-sturgis-mn0000938432/credits — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.160.193.149 (talk) 02:09, 24 September 2014 (UTC) Notability is doing something significant and therefore affects other people. He has worked with people to help there music which in turn is listened to by thousands of people. The simple factor of googling a name and having actual photos and information confirms popularity or knowledge about that one person or thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.10.231.8 (talk) 02:47, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Here are some news articles: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep14/articles/joey-sturgis.htm http://geargods.net/features/interview-joey-sturgis/ http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/blessthefall_recording_new_album_with_joey_sturgis http://www.revolvermag.com/?s=joey+sturgis&x=0&y=0 http://www.underthegunreview.net/2014/03/11/utg-exclusive-producer-joey-sturgis-picks-his-10-favorite-projects/ http://bloody-disgusting.com/interviews/3290723/joey-sturgis-mind-behind-music-interview/ http://www.absolutepunk.net/journal.php?do=showentry&e=353812 http://mindequalsblown.net/interviews/interview-joey-sturgis http://blog.haulix.com/post/76985145531/industry-spotlight-joey-sturgis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeyismusic (talk • contribs) 02:29, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

• Keep. The new Sound On Sound article[2] and the earlier Vents magazine article[3] combine to satisfy WP:GNG. Binksternet (talk) 03:22, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Joey is the reason countless bands have been successful. You have to be just picking on him because you got butthurt if you think he isn't notable. He's the biggest name producer in the modern metal scene.

Joey Sturgis is arguably one of the most successful, prolific and influential producers in metal music. By definition, notability is "A person of distinction or great reputation" as stated here: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/notable By that logic, someone who has had a visible and prominent influence in the creation, development and evolution of one hugely popular genre of music in the last five years is inarguably notable. His credentials include Asking Alexandria, Attack Attack, The Devil Wears Prada, Emmure and We Came As Romans among others; all of which are established and hugely popular acts. For clarification of this statement, please refer to each band's respective Wiki pages, Facebook pages or simply Google them. Without him, these bands would arguably have had a largely different sound (due to his involvement in the writing, producing, recording and mixing of their albums) and as such, we can conclude that metal music would have an indescribably different landscape. Joey's work is integral to the success of these artists and the defining of an entire niche of modern music, and to argue that this does not quantify notability seems biased.

Joey will be appearing on Creative Live as seen here: https://www.creativelive.com/conferences/mastering-metal-mixing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.194.5.173 (talk) 11:51, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

For more info on Joey Sturgis...

Gold Record Mentions:

http://www.hellhoundmusic.com/joey-sturgis-receives-gold-record-for-asking-alexandria-the-final-episode/

http://gigzealot.com/joey-sturgis-receives-gold-record-for-work-with-asking-alexandria/

http://musicexistence.com/blog/2014/04/29/joey-sturgis-receives-gold-record-for-work-with-asking-alexandria/

http://uglyscene.com/2014/04/30/joey-sturgis-receives-gold-record-for-work-with-asking-alexandria/

http://ventsmagazine.com/joey-sturgis-receives-gold-record-for-work-with-asking-alexandria/

http://altrocklive.com/blog/2014/04/joey-sturgis-receives-gold-record-for-work-with-asking-alexandria/

http://ignitemusicmag.com/2014/04/28/joey-sturgis-receives-gold-record-for-work-with-asking-alexandria/

http://pluggedinpromotions.wordpress.com/2014/04/29/joey-sturgis-receives-gold-record-for-work-with-asking-alexandria/

http://fifteenminutemedia.tumblr.com/page/2

http://www.arfadia.com/blog/view/84965530971/Joey+Sturgis+Receives+Gold+Record+for+work+with+Asking+Alexandria

http://www.rockstarsglued.com/2014/04/28/joey-sturgis-receives-gold-record-for-work-with-asking-alexandria/

Interviews:

http://geargods.net/features/interview-joey-sturgis/

http://thewellzstreetjournal.com/2013/11/20/interview-with-joey-sturgis-producer-at-foundation-recording-studios/

http://mindequalsblown.net/interviews/interview-joey-sturgis

http://bloody-disgusting.com/interviews/3290723/joey-sturgis-mind-behind-music-interview/

http://www.absolutepunk.net/journal.php?do=showentry&e=353812

http://www.underthegunreview.net/2014/03/11/utg-exclusive-producer-joey-sturgis-picks-his-10-favorite-projects/

http://blog.haulix.com/post/76985145531/industry-spotlight-joey-sturgis

http://audiogeekzine.com/2010/07/exclusive-interview-with-music-producer-joey-sturgis/

http://www.killthemusic.net/blog/interview-joey-sturgis

http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Joey-Sturgis/1566411725

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/11345208/joey_sturgis_interview/

http://thepit-se.com/2014/02/12/backstage-pass-joey-sturgis/

http://getinmedia.com/articles/music-careers/joey-sturgis-producing-heavy-metal-box

Articles on Joey:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep14/articles/joey-sturgis.htm

http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/crown_the_empire_enter_the_studio_with_joey_sturgis - has a mention posted from Rise Records

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep14/articles/joey-sturgis.htm

Here are a few of his products he has released and where they have been mentioned.

Pixelator:

http://newnoisemagazine.com/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-brand-audio-processor/

http://ventsmagazine.com/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-brand-new-audio-processor/

http://www.caesarlivenloud.com/2014/07/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-brand-new.html

http://www.hellhoundmusic.com/producer-joey-sturgis-releases-brand-new-audio-processor-pixelator/

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-alerts-older-than-2-months/938543-joey-sturgis-pixelator-plugin.html

http://en.audiofanzine.com/plugin-lo-fi/jst/pixelator/news/a.play,n.18481.html

http://www.magesy.xyz/55000-joey-sturgis-tones-pixelator-v1.0.3-win.html

http://www.kvraudio.com/news/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-pixelator---audio-resolution-manipulator-for-sound-design-and-destruction-26538

http://rekkerd.org/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-pixelator-plugin/

http://makehiphop.com/2014/07/02/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-pixelator-audio-resolution-manipulator-for-sound-design-and-destruction/

http://audiok.info/joey-sturgis-tones-pixelator-v103-vst-x86-x64-win

http://www.moinf.info/news/joey-sturgis-pixelator-29-06-14

http://beta.producerlabs.com/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-pixelator-plugin

http://smashyorecords.co.uk/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-pixelator-audio-resolution-manipulator-for-sound-design-and-destruction/

http://en.zicos.com/proaudio/i29847319-Joey-Sturgis-Pixelator-Plugin.html

http://www.harmonycentral.com/news/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-brand-new-audio-processor

http://synthwise.com/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-pixelator-audio-resolution-manipulator-sound-design-and-destruction/2014/07/02

Clip:

http://www.emusician.com/gear/1332/joey-sturgis-releases-jst-clip/46197

http://www.kvraudio.com/news/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-jst-clip-peak-clipper-plug-in-25677

http://www.sonicscoop.com/2014/04/16/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-jst-clip-plugin-peak-clipper-for-mixing-mastering/

http://hangout.altsounds.com/news/165520-gear-joey-sturgis-releases-peak-clipper-jst.html

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2014/04/18/peak-clipper-plug-in/

http://www.steppingoutrecords.com/news/music-blog/entry/gear-joey-sturgis-releases-new-peak-clipper-jst-clip-plug-in

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-alerts-older-than-2-months/920620-joey-sturgis-tones-releases-jst-clip.html

http://rekkerd.org/joey-sturgis-tones-jst-clip-clipper/

http://newnoisemagazine.com/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-brand-audio-processor/

http://www.caesarlivenloud.com/2014/04/joey-sturgis-releases-new-peak-clipper.html

http://en.zicos.com/proaudio/i29766974-Joey-Sturgis-Tones-releases-JST-Clip-Peak-Clipper-Plug-In.html

http://www.moinf.info/news/joey-sturgis-clip-08-04-14

http://bloody-disgusting.com/interviews/3290723/joey-sturgis-mind-behind-music-interview/

http://smashyorecords.blogspot.com/2014/04/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-clip-peak.html

http://www.1200dreams.com/news/208/joey-sturgis-introduces-jst-clip

http://www.gearjunkies.com/news_info.php?news_id=9326

http://pluggedinpromotions.wordpress.com/2014/04/14/joey-sturgis-releases-new-peak-clipper-jst-clip-plug-in/

http://ampsandgreenscreens.tumblr.com/post/83163696751/joey-sturgis-releases-new-peak-clipper-jst-clip

http://www.rockstarsglued.com/2014/04/18/joey-sturgis-releases-new-peak-clipper-jst-clip-plug-in/

http://www.alt-uk.net/2014/04/14/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-jst-clip/

http://mixingmastering.co.uk/joey-sturgis-introduces-jst-clip-plugin/

Gain Reduction:

http://www.sonicscoop.com/2014/02/25/joey-sturgis-releases-signature-vocal-compressor-saturator-plugin-gain-reduction/

http://www.hellhoundmusic.com/joey-sturgis-releases-groundbreaking-gain-reduction-vocal-compressor/

http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/joey_sturgis_releases_new_vocal_plug_in_guitar_giveaway

http://www.recordingmag.com/news/display/890.html

http://rekkerd.org/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-pixelator-plugin/

http://amplified.tv/joey-sturgis-releases-new-plug-in/

http://www.moinf.info/news/joey-sturgis-gain-reduction-04-02-14

http://skopemag.com/2014/02/04/new-video-by-jst-gain-reduction

http://www.audio-desk.com/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-gain-reduction-vocal-compressor/

http://pluggedinpromotions.wordpress.com/2014/02/03/joey-sturgis-releases-groundbreaking-gain-reduction-vocal-compressor/

http://newnoisemagazine.com/joey-sturgis-releases-groundbreaking-gain-reduction-vocal-compressor/

http://geargods.net/review/review-joey-sturgis-tones-gain-reduction-plug/

http://www.alt-uk.net/2014/02/25/joey-sturgis-releases-gain-reduction-vocal-plugin/

http://bravewords.com/news/joey-sturgis-releases-groundbreaking-gain-reduction-vocal-compressor

http://www.bigcitythoughts.com/newsreviews/joey-sturgis-releases-groundbreaking-gain-reduction-vocal-compressor

http://www.gearjunkies.com/news_info.php?news_id=9090

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-alerts-older-than-2-months/903580-joey-sturgis-gain-reduction-plugin.html

http://www.harmonycentral.com/news/joey-sturgis-releases-groundbreaking-quotgain-reductionquot-vocal-compressor

http://reviewsfromthecave.com/4334/joey-sturgis-releases-groundbreaking-gain-reduction-vocal-compressor/

http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/gain-reduction-plugin-promises-to-be-your-new-go-to-compressor-for-vocals-594254

Drumforge:

http://www.emusician.com/gear/1332/drumforge-modular-sample-library-available-now/47885

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=3698740

http://www.alt-uk.net/2014/05/05/joey-sturgis-drumforge-now-available-for-pre-order/

http://musicupdated.com/news/7239/joey-sturgis-to-release-%22drumforge%22-sample-library

http://www.rockstarsglued.com/2014/05/05/introducing-drumforge-a-revolution-in-drum-samples/

http://shuffler.fm/artists/drumforge

http://forum.studio.se/index.php/topic/106310-drumforge-joey-sturgis-egna-trumplug/

http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/introducing_drumforge_a_revolution_in_drum_samples

http://www.toddstarphotography.com/blog/2014/6/news-drumforge-modular-sample-library-available-now

http://en.zicos.com/proaudio/i29842528-Introducing-Drumforge.html

http://ignitemusicmag.com/2014/06/30/drumforge-modular-sample-library-available-now-features-over-50-unique-drum-instruments/

http://www.arfadia.com/blog/view/86468252155/Making+Sure+Our+Stereo+Spread+Is+Wide+Drumforge

http://www.keyboardmag.com/gear/1183/drumforge-sample-library-available-now/31088

http://newnoisemagazine.com/drumforge-modular-sample-library-now-features-50-unique-drum-instruments/

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-alerts-older-than-2-months/937839-introducing-drumforge.html

http://ventsmagazine.com/drumforge-modular-sample-library-available-now-features-over-50-unique-drum-instruments/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rick Mohrhauser (talk • contribs) 19:26, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

• Comment Far better to add the highest quality of the sources, like that Sound on Sound piece, to the actual article than listing dozens of them here as bare URLs, Rick Mohrhauser. Please read WP:CITATION OVERKILL and WP:TLDR. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:08, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep per newfound sources.-- danntm ^T _C 20:45, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

"Highest Quality" sources are always going to be debateable unless Wiki puts out a list of publications it considers to be highest quality. You must admit that it is really annoying to attack a page for not having enough sources, and then when more sources are provided in its defense you are requesting "only the highest quality" sources. What happens when the highest quality sources are given, will you have some other complaint about how there are too many or the highest quality sources aren't valid or they are out of date or they're not in the right format? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.194.5.173 (talk) 01:33, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 07:51, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Lee Vayle

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Not a notable author in that he wrote a hagiography of William M. Branham. There are no secondary sources on the page and none that I could find. There is no talk page for the article. Taxee (talk) 22:23, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete – Notability cannot be bestowed or derived from an association with a notable individual until that person claiming to be “Notable” is noteworthy in their own right. As such, in researching Mr. Vayle there is little or virtually no coverage to establish notability on their own merits. ShoesssS ^Talk 13:42, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete as lacking independent referencing. Stuartyeates (talk) 08:17, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was Redirected, non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 00:26, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Mabel Matiz discography

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A page that could easily just be redirected to the singer-given the fact that there are not alot of songs on here. Wgolf (talk) 22:19, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:25, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

1595 club

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Article about a club that has no coverage, much less the significant independent coverage required by GNG.Mdtemp (talk) 20:56, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete: no independent sources found. ww2censor (talk) 21:47, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete The article has no coverage that would meet the requirements of WP:GNG. Papaursa (talk) 23:17, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. without prejudice to a redirect following deletion targeted to Suicide in Australia j⚛e decker^talk 16:37, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Australian Suicide

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Non-notable wrestler. No reliable sources (just FB and Twitter) and no claims that would show notability.Mdtemp (talk) 20:44, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• No view on this article itself, but if deleted, recreate as redirect to Suicide in Australia. -- saberwyn 23:42, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete An unsourced BLP about a wrestler who's actual identity is unknown. No indication that this individual is a notable wrestler (or is notable for anything else, for that matter). Papaursa (talk) 21:09, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete - While a redirect would be plausible to Suicide in Australia, but I would recommend a deletion first because the content is so much unrelated. There's not really anything here to back up notability of the individual that the article currently describes. Red Phoenix ^{let's talk...} 16:37, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

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The result was Delete. I'm also deleting the redirect to Professional wrestling in Australia, because Buddy Murphy is not actually discussed or mentioned (or even listed) anywhere in that article. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 14:55, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Buddy Murphy

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Unsourced BLP about an aspiring pro wrestler. No sources and no claims of notability.Mdtemp (talk) 20:38, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete, rigth now, he isn't notable --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 16:17, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete This is an unsourced BLP about someone in training to be a professional wrestler. Papaursa (talk) 21:07, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:25, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Heart of Fire

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3-Page comic book article with no indication of notability. Not every comic ever written deserves a Wikipedia article, they have to have some notability. This is one that doesn't. Nathan121212 (talk) 16:41, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete Appropriate for a Star Wars wiki, but Wikipedia has no requirement to cover every comic. Bondegezou (talk) 10:44, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete A three page comic story doesn't really seem worthy of having a page unless there's significant coverage of it from other sources. As of now, the page has nothing indicating any notability. kuwabaratheman (talk) 16:09, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) –Davey2010 • (talk) 17:20, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Greg Frey

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Not notable *Seen a Mike* 19:59, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Does not meet criteria in Notability for college athlete *Seen a Mike* 20:01, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep. While he doesn't pass WP:NCOLLATH, precedent is well-established that a college football player may have a stand-alone article if coverage passes WP:GNG. Frey was the starting quarterback at Ohio State from 1988 to 1990 and was the subject of widespread coverage in the mainstream media, more than sufficient to pass GNG. Examples include: this from Northwest Columbus News, this from ESPN.com. He also passes WP:NGRIDIRON as he played professional football in the original Arena Football League for the 1993 Cleveland Thunderbolts team. Cbl62 (talk) 00:18, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep - This is an easy keep !vote per the general notability guidelines of WP:GNG (see Cbl62's comments above for a small sample of the coverage of the subject's college career). To anyone familiar with American college football, this result was entirely predictable, even without doing any AfD-related homework. The subject was the three-year starting quarterback for the Ohio State Buckeyes football team of Ohio State University, which has been a perennial top-10 program for the last 70 years. Starting quarterbacks in high-profile programs like Ohio State's get a lot of ink even if they suck, and this guy was a pretty damn fine college QB. Next. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 00:32, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep Passes WP:Athlete as he played professionally int the Arena Football League.--Yankees10 18:57, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep I agree with all of the above arguments. One problem with Google searches is that they just don't go back very far. I did a search on HighBeam and hundreds of articles about him or mention him come up. I am One of Many (talk) 05:59, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:25, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Vladimír Moravčík

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After cleaning up the article I realized that there is no documented evidence to show he meets WP:KICK. In addition, the sources are just fight results.Mdtemp (talk) 19:43, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete As per nominator.Peter Rehse (talk) 20:15, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Weak Delete He seems to have a pretty impressive fight record, but nothing that appears to meet WP:KICK. The lack of significant independent coverage means he also doesn't meet WP:GNG. Papaursa (talk) 23:15, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:36, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

EFC Africa

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Article was deleted in late March as well as being deleted earlier at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Extreme Fighting Championship Africa. All of the sources data back to 2011 or 2012 so there's nothing new to show notability. The only exception is a press release from Fight Network, but that is certainly not independent.Mdtemp (talk) 19:29, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Weak keep per Briantw's comment of 2011: While each individual event doesn't carry the weight of significance, EFC Africa is holding its 11th event on 2011-11-10. This series of events is the largest in South Africa, and has grown to live coverage in a national cinema chain as well as two satellite television channels in the region. Now the largest in Africa. In both previous Afds the balamce was close on the company. --Bejnar (talk) 20:19, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

One problem is that there's no independent evidence to show it's any more notable than it was at the last deletion discussion.Mdtemp (talk) 18:16, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Weak delete I don't think there's enough significant coverage to meet the GNG. 131.118.229.17 (talk) 01:12, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
• Weak delete Unless some new additional sources are provided, there's nothing that indicates this promotion has gained notability since the previous two times it was deleted. Papaursa (talk) 22:39, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
• [4][5][6][7] are any of these credible? Dwanyewest (talk) 00:19, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

I'm not impressed. They're not new sources or significant. I can't access the first source given, the second is a promotional release from EFC Africa in 2012 saying that ratings had doubled since 2011 (and this source was given in the previous discussion), the third is a one line mention in an article about cashing in on MMA in Canada where EFC is clearly described as minor "nth-tier fighting cards from promotions including Battlefield Fight League and Extreme Fighting Championship Africa", while the fourth is a 2011 article about a fighter who fights (or fought) for the EFC and the promotion gets a passing mention. None of these is post the last AfD and the most recent is the 2013 business article describing the EFC as n-th tier. It hardly makes a strong case for notability. Papaursa (talk) 03:33, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

• Weak Delete Still not enough to show it's a notable MMA organization.204.126.132.231 (talk) 18:40, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
• Delete Non notable bush leauge promotion.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 21:23, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:25, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Rosario Presti

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Non-notable kickboxer. No evidence to show he meets WP:KICK.Mdtemp (talk) 19:15, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete As per nominator.Peter Rehse (talk) 20:15, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete Does not meet WP:KICK. All three sources in the article appear to be just routine results reporting, although I couldn't access the 2 Russian ones and am basing my comments on the article titles. Papaursa (talk) 23:23, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:24, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Hersh Davis-Nitzberg

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Wildly promotional article about a non-notable person, peppered with malformed references (and some places that look like references were added, but none are linked) to websites and articles that have little or nothing to do with the subject and do not indicate any notability. Considering Davis-Nitzberg is in the reputation management business, creating a bogus article on Wikipedia seems an especially bad idea. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:22, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete The article claims he founded a company that "dominated Southern Californian nightlife" for 11 years, and also claims that he is a "publicist". I was unable to find any coverage in independent, reliable sources describing any such dominance, or the other claims of influence, or anything else either. All I found was the usual array of social media sites, which do not establish notability. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:25, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete I agree with User:Cullen328. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:51, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete per User:Cullen328, no significant coverage in reliable sources, fails WP:GNG. The previous Afd ended early with a speedy delete as blatant promotion (G-11). --Bejnar (talk) 05:05, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was keep. j⚛e decker^talk 16:36, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Drchrono

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I recognize that this meets the GNG, but it is nonetheless an insignificant company--its total revenue for 2013 is $2.8 million. The GNG does not force us to have an article in fields where there is an exceptional amount of hype. DGG ( talk ) 16:38, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep Could use a rewrite, but there is sufficient coverage from major Reliable Sources. Even the nominator concedes that the subject meets GNG. --MelanieN (talk) 18:50, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep As MelanieN points out, the nominator concedes WP:GNG. I think there have to he very compelling reasons to nevertheless delete an article that meets WP:GNG. Automated health data recording on personalized devices are where the technology is headed. So, I see no reason to entertain deletion. I am One of Many (talk) 06:14, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep - This badly needs a rewrite, but there looks to be enough sources in the article itself to meet WP:GNG. I think a bit of POV needs to be removed and fleshing out needs to happen, but I can see this as meeting our inclusion criteria. Red Phoenix ^{let's talk...} 16:40, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
• comment' WP:N is very clear that meeting the GNG does not mean that there must be an article. We have the right to judge to what extent the notability corresponds to somethign realistic for an encyclopedia. DGG ( talk ) 05:40, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:23, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Vikram Singh (Shoethrower)

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a person who is known for throwing there shoe. Umm yeah. Wgolf (talk) 17:15, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete Classic WP:BLP1E. Abecedare (talk) 17:30, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• -Also if we let one person like this slide-then we might as well have every single person who has said boo during any political event. Which um yeah that would be way too many pages. Wgolf (talk) 17:36, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:BLP1E - If I threw my shoe at someone would I get an article? .... –Davey2010 • (talk) 18:39, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete - WP:BLP1E. EricSerge (talk) 20:53, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete, WP:BLP1E. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:55, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete per above, Boleyn (talk) 21:04, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

• No Delete: Prakash Singh Badal is Chief Minister of Punjab (not some tea maker in streets). Vikram Singh, who has thrown shoe on him on an event due to unemployment prevailing in Punjab is critical issue. Moreover, many charges were thrown on him which are wrongly charged by Punjab Police which lead to intervention of Human Rights. It is similar to Jarnail Singh (politician), Muntadhar al-Zaidi. But, if wiki have policy of only creating articles for Shoe throwers on American Politicians then you may proceed with deletion (i don't know this rule). The person who is saying above that this is BOO, then could you please provide stats of country where shoe throwing on politicians is very common and is part of culture and occur the second day? Moreover this incident, includes multiple events, shoe throwing, Aam Aadmi Party Involvement, Human Rights violation etc and even got support from Punjabis abroad. Rather then marking for deletion first it should be ask for expansion or merger? Rest wikipedia is yours :). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karantsingh (talk • contribs) 05:35, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

• Merge: Davey-For an instance, If you throw shoe on Obama. You are caught by police and put into false charges. You belong to some anti Obama Group. Also People fed up of Obama come in your support. Then I think you are notable man. Please do not throw show on Obama for coming on to wikipedia ;)
• Delete - what this protester did was sort of run of the mill in southwest Asia. Bearian (talk) 20:47, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete - Wikipedia is not a newspaper. — CutestPenguin^Hangout 07:16, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:23, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Bali songwriting Invitational

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This page was copied out of AfC by an editor who appears to be connected with one of the organizers. The references provided are all promotional artist bios, announcements, or web sites of the organizing groups. I looked on the web for better references, including a check under "Bali Songwriting Summit", and didn't find anything. —Anne Delong (talk) 17:16, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

• Delete - as nominator. —Anne Delong (talk) 17:22, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete per nom. No independent sources, all hype. No significant independent sources. Fails WP:GNG for lack of coverage. A gathering of notable artists does not create notability, comments and discussion in reliable sources does. --Bejnar (talk) 03:03, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was Withdrawn, non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:38, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

WHEF (disambiguation)

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Seems like a miss use of a Disam page as just one abbreviation seems to fit and that is it. Wgolf (talk) 17:07, 23 September 2014 (UTC) Withdrawn

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• -Withdrawn-thanks to Boleyn for finding other uses, not a misuse anymore. Wgolf (talk) 20:34, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Wow, that was a quick reaction! Thanks, Wgolf, Boleyn (talk) 20:37, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:23, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Das chess

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No sign of WP:NOTABILITY. Just another chess variant among thousands, and a new one at that, this is currently sourced to the article proposing it at proza.ru, which is an anyone-can-publish platform. External links are all to anyone-can-publish or user-edited sites. Google finds just 5 hits with the name of the game and the last name of the creator, including this page. Nat Gertler (talk) 16:24, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete Nothing to show this has the significant independent coverage required to meet WP:GNG.Mdtemp (talk) 19:20, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete All I can find about this are the self-published page on proza.ru, a similarly unsourced article on the Esperanto Wikipedia, and an article on what appears to be a fork of the Russian Wikipedia [8] though not on the actual Russian WP. Not even on chessvariants.org. — Gwalla | Talk 18:36, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete per nom., no significant independent coverage, fails WP:GNG. --Bejnar (talk) 03:09, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Spartaz ^Humbug! 17:19, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Ask culture vs. guess culture

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Not well established as a concept in sociology or anthropology to be included in an encyclopedia. Gccwang (talk) 23:26, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep - like subconscious, we have tended to keep lots of popular culture topics that have articles, even if the subject might not be recognized, or may even be a fringe theory. Bearian (talk) 17:38, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep. I certainly wasn't expecting to vote this way, but the sources look legit. I agree with Bearian. We don't really have much choice in the matter. Fringe nonsense, pop psychology, and web wisdom are all quite acceptable, as long as they're sourced. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:24, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete. I'm not convinced by the references in the article. The Eichler and Drum sources are explicitly derivative of the Burkeman column in The Guardian so shouldn't be considered separate sources, so we are left with one personal column, not an editorially fact-checked article, in a newspaper. Unless we can can come up with some better sourcing than this I don't see how we can sustain an encyclopedia article on this topic. To compare this to the ultra-notable "subconscious" is simply ridiculous. 82.9.185.151 (talk) 18:58, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete Looking at the sources, this is minor. We'd want considerably more than the Guardian for any article in science or social science--their judgement in these areas is unreliable. DGG ( talk ) 23:16, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete per DGG. I agree. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 17:14, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:22, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Pah Tum

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This has been tagged as a hoax for some time. An editor has noted on the talk page that it isn't mentioned in any of the many board game-related reference books he has checked. It may actually exist, [9] but even if it does it doesn't appear to be notable given the dearth of coverage in RSs. Fails WP:GNG (as well as WP:OR and WP:V). Jinkinson talk to me 15:19, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete for lack of coverage. The game is claimed as an ancient game, one of the referenced sites indicates that a board was found in the XII Dynasty tomb of Reny-Seneb. But Llagostera, Esteban (2011). "El ocio en la antigüedad. Juegos del Mundo". Espacio Tiempo y Forma. Serie II, Historia Antigua (in Spanish). 1 (24): 305–329. makes it clear that the game found there bears no relation to "Pah tum", and that the archaeologists are completely ignorant of the rules of the Reny-Seneb game. This is confirmed in Chapter 2 of Tyldesley, Joyce A. (2007). Egyptian games and sports. Princes Risborough, UK: Shire. ISBN 978-0-7478-0661-5. where the Reny-Seneb game is referred to as "hounds and jackals". The claim of Mesopotamian and Assyrian Pah Tum boards could not be verified. It seems much more likely that the rules are of an entirely modern origin. --Bejnar (talk) 04:42, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete. Hoax. The ancient history has been trimmed from the article since its creation, but is particularly telling. Any board game from antiquity, especially one whose rules were known, especially one whose rules involve otherwise modern concepts like random space selection, would be a fruitful topic in scholarly analysis. But, predictably, Google Scholar is silent on the topic of "Pah Tum". Nor are there Google Books hits; even if this was a well-circulated game of more modern origin (with merely claimed ancient origins), it would appear in any of the litany of books about board games and abstract gaming, or in computer science game theory sources. But it is in none of those. Indeed, its only web presence appears to be a flurry of entries in open-submission board gaming sites (none of which constitute reliable sources), circa 2007–2008, and this 2008 entry at Wikipedia. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 15:13, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

The original editor of Pah Tum, Aamma58, has contributed a vast array of essentially or completely unsourced articles on abstract board games. I am struggling to find reliable sources, even trivial ones, for nearly all of them. More eyes would be appreciated. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 15:21, 30 September 2014 (UTC) Dialing this back, somewhat. There are a TON of really poorly sourced articles here, in something of a walled garden, but at least enough of them seem to be verifiable that I don't think it's appropriate for me to pull the Official Wikipedia Fire Alarm. My opinion on this article, however, stands unless someone can provide evidence to the contrary. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 15:56, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:21, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Karam Family

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List of potential family members which consists of mostly redlinks and no sources. I searched on a couple names and couldn't find anything to indicate notability. Article was de-prodded over a year ago by creator but no improvements have taken place. NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:22, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

• Speedy delete. It may have been dePRODed which means AfD would be the next step, but that doesn't make it immune from A7 for making absolutely no claims to notability. It would be an insult to regular Wikipedians to expect them to find sources for this family vanity page. Some of the people in the family have Wikipedia pages but that still doesn't even make this page useful as a list article. That said, it may be worthwhile checking on the notability of those other pages too. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:39, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

• Does A7 apply to families? The guideline doesn't say so explicitly. —Largo Plazo (talk) 13:55, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete. CSD criteria have generally been narrowly construed. A family is not a real-world person nor an organization, so does not strictly qualify for A7. But the fact that this article makes no assertion of notability or importance whatsoever is still a valid reason for deletion. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 14:40, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete, unless someone can come up with documentation. They could be the Lebanese Kennedys or Bushes, but I Googled "karim family" "youssef bey" and got no results. I'd definitely expect that if there were discussions of this family in English, there'd be pages online with that phrase and that person's name on them. There could be apt sources in Arabic, but I have no way to identify them and, unless someone supplies them, I'd rather not have this indiscriminate list of mostly red links with no introductory text explaining the significance of the family as a unit. —Largo Plazo (talk) 15:01, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete per above comments. The family may well include notable individuals, but that does not in of itself make the family as a whole notable - something that needs to be demonstrated through third-party reliable sources. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:35, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Maybe redirect to Karam. postdlf (talk) 16:34, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

• Not a bad idea. Even Karam#Persons. —Largo Plazo (talk) 17:03, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

• Delete - While I agree with much of what has been said above, I think one common sense point must be made: when all of the red links are removed from this article, it won't be much of a list. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:53, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete - per Dirtlawyer's reasoning. There is no coherent topic here to justify an article or list. I still think A7 would have applied. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:16, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete Topic fails to meet any of our notability guidelines due to insufficient coverage in reliable independent secondary sources. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 12:50, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete per Dirtlawyer1 and fails to meet notability guidelines.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 13:11, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
• Weak delete This is a tough one. I think many of the people listed may be notable and also the family. When I search on the arabic names, a lot of sources that look reliable in arabic pop up, but I don't know arabic and I just don't know much about Lebanon. I think we lack editors from that part of the world, so for now, we should probably delete it. I am One of Many (talk) 06:46, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:35, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Charlie Rich, Jr.

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Only very faint passing mentions found; seems to fail WP:NMUSIC. Supposedly toured nationally but sources are very scant. Concerns that this may not be prod-worthy led to me withdrawing the prod. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 13:06, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Weak keep - thank you, TenPoundHammer, although I'd mixed him up with another singer. In any case, there is some evidence that this artist has toured nationally, mostly at state fairs - Missouri state fair, Utah state fair, Lakeside and Wild Rose casinos in Iowa, and the Wisconsin state fair. Oddly, I don't see any in-depth reviews online, but rather lots of short mentions. For widespread but not much significant coverage, I'd say he's barely notable. Bearian (talk) 20:59, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete. WP:MUSIC#4 is about a concert tour, not about driving yourself around a country and playing at small fairs. It also requires nontrivial coverage. Neither is satisfied here. duffbeerforme (talk) 14:44, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete Fails WP:NOTEBLP and WP:MUSIC for lack of significant coverage, also per duffbeerforme.  --Bejnar (talk) 05:04, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:20, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Nigel Sixsmith

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Unable to find significant coverage independent of the subject of this BLP, do not believe the page meets GNG nor do I believe it meets the criteria of MUSICBIO. J04n(talk page) 12:46, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete. Agree and would suggest the closely-related The Art of Sound is equally worthy of deletion. Nedrutland (talk) 14:14, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete. No references at present, and though I tried several web searches I found no independent reliable sources to satisfy WP:ANYBIO. Qwfp (talk) 15:58, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete per above - Fails GNG.–Davey2010 • (talk) 17:40, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete sounds like a nice guy, but fails to have any real coverage. Fails WP:NOTEBLP and WP:MUSIC for lack of coverage. --Bejnar (talk) 05:12, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete Fails WP:MUSICBIO.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:07, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was KEEP. (Non-admin closure) --MelanieN (talk) 20:14, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Mami Matsuyama

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A person known for dressing up as a VG character? Um not sure how that is notable. Plus the "source" goes to bing oddly. Wgolf (talk) 02:56, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

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Comment: The Japanese Wikipedia article may say more things about her. As for the link that redirects to Bing, it's an expired Mainichi Shimbun link. I tried to look at the Wayback Machine but it said explicitly that the link was excluded from it :( WhisperToMe (talk) 03:01, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

• -Thanks, yeah can't find that much on her though. At first I thought it meant the character was modeled after her and I was thinking oh that's cool then I realized I read it wrong and was going yeah might as well as have everyone at comic con now or something! Wgolf (talk) 03:03, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

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I'm going to see what I can find with "松山 まみ" - The Google hits suggest that she's some kind of model or swimsuit model, but I need to get those precious "reliable sources" WhisperToMe (talk) 03:19, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Good luck! Well at least I did manage to find this or else it might of sat around even longer without anyone knowing! Wgolf (talk) 03:21, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! I'm not sure if it counts but I found a DVD on Kinokuniya Ｐｕｒｅ　Ｓｍｉｌｅ　松山まみ WhisperToMe (talk) 03:23, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment Google Books shows several books about her, but I don't know much about who publishes them. They may be erotic photograph books, but Google Books lists them. I'll enlist help with the Japan Wikiproject.

• まみラシク歩イテク。: 松山まみ1st写真集. 竹書房, Nov 29, 2003.
• 告白伝えたい思い: 松山まみ2nd写真集. 竹書房, Mar 10, 2005.
• 旅立ち雪が消えぬまに: 松山まみ写真集. ワニブックス, May 10, 2006.
• 松山まみ「恋のはじまり」. ラインコミュニケーションズ CapturedBooks.

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• *Keep Delete Fails biographic notability. Appearing in a swimsuit on a DVD or in a magazine is not grounds for inclusion in Wikipedia.  Philg88 ^♦talk 04:43, 13 September 2014 (UTC) Based on new sources.  Philg88 ^♦talk 06:59, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
• Comment It appears that Matsuyama was not just a model for erotic photo books and DVDs, but for a time an actress with some press coverage. Her biggest role was in the TV show Chousei Kantai Sazer-X and its movie version, Chousei Kantai Sazer-X the Movie: Fight! Star Warriors, but she also had a regular role in Gal Circle. As a result of all this, for a time she did have coverage in the major sports papers and tabloids: for example, SpoNichi, Sports Hochi, Nikkan Spa, and the regional paper Mutsu Shinpo. She also had articles on other major entertainment sites like Oricon Style, and Zakzak [10] [11]. This is coverage that is on par with a gravure idol just achieving fame. The problem is that she disappeared after 2007, and apart from occasional blog posts wondering what happened to her, there is no real coverage after that. Michitaro (talk) 01:23, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep based on new information - Archived Mutsu Shimpo - Yomiuri Archived - Also: Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Entertainers says "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." and "Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following." WhisperToMe (talk) 04:24, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Comment. I'm not sure that Japanese "sports" newspapers, which seem to largely feature young female swimmers (!) are a reliable source. As for the entertainment notability claim, if you are referring to the TV shows Michitaro mentions above, Gal Circle is tagged for notability while both Chousei Kantai Sazer-X and Chousei Kantai Sazer-X the Movie: Fight! Star Warriors are unreferenced, indicating that they too have inclusion issues.  Philg88 ^♦talk 08:11, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
    • Comment. Seriously, the sports papers in Japan are not "largely" featuring "young female swimmers." They are daily national papers focusing on sports and published by the major national dailies (Sponichi/Sports Nippon is a subsidiary of the Mainichi Shinbun and Sports Hochi is a division of the Yomiuri Shinbun, Japan's largest paper). They also publish regular and entertainment news and are used as reliable sources throughout Wikipedia (I have also used them on many AfDs). As for the TV shows and film, I have added some sources--all easily pass notability requirements. I am still undecided, however, whether this is sufficient to make Matsuyama notable. Michitaro (talk) 14:40, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
      • Comment: If the shows are notable, then she is covered by Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Entertainers "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." as long as she has significant roles in at least two of them. WhisperToMe (talk) 04:33, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep - She meets WP:BASIC ([12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18]) and WP:ENTERTAINER criterion #1. 122.17.193.9 (talk) 20:39, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep. I believe the material provided by 122.17.193.9, in addition to what I found, is sufficient to pass WP:GNG criteria. Michitaro (talk) 16:30, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Spartaz ^Humbug! 16:20, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Ratko Zjaca

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Not notable enough to have a stand-alone article in WP. If the name is a search tool then could be redirected to a band he worked in. Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 08:15, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Delete Doesn't seem to meet WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG and I can see no suitable redirect target. Boleyn (talk) 09:15, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Week Keep based on a review at [19], a short review at [20], and a short review at [21]. --j⚛e decker^talk 18:41, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete based on minimalist coverage. --Bejnar (talk) 04:23, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was keep. Kudos to James500 for his excellent work on the restructured article.  Philg88 ^♦talk 13:23, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

5 Stone Buildings

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Non-notable set of barristers' chambers (akin to a non-notable law firm) - fails WP:ORG. ukexpat (talk) 19:02, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Delete. Some of the members may be notable but I doubt the chambers themselves are. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:07, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

• • NOTINHERITED is only an essay, and I doubt that its logic can be applied here. Places (and this is a building) typically acquire notability for their inhabitants and the events that happen there. James500 (talk) 02:37, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Serious consideration should be given to the possibility of merging this article and 11 Stone Buildings into a single article at Stone Buildings, dealing with the entire street, which is likely to be notable. James500 (talk) 02:37, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Do not delete. I think Stone Buildings probably has a chapter in this. They were constructed in 1774 by Sir Robert Taylor. When one feeds that into GBooks one gets quite a few results quickly including things like this. Palladian design is highly regarded. Pitt the Younger had chambers there. Appears as a setting in a novel by Anthony Trollope. And so forth. I think Stone Buildings is notable and the merger, redirect and rewrite I proposed should go ahead. James500 (talk) 02:25, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment. Move to Stone Buildings and make it about the building as a whole? Philafrenzy (talk) 09:28, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

That is essentially what I am proposing. The same sort of job I did at Paper Buildings and Pump Court. James500 (talk) 12:42, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

I am iminently about to perform this rewrite. I don't know if I'll finish it in a day. James500 (talk) 01:49, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

I am sure we can wait a few days to see the outcome. Philafrenzy (talk) 02:00, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

 Done. The article requires and will receive further expansion but should be immune from deletion in its present form. James500 (talk) 21:07, 13 September 2014 (UTC) @ User:Philafrenzy: Is the article acceptable now? James500 (talk) 22:50, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

• As regards, no. 5 itself, it seems that the Office of the Solicitor General and the Office of the Solicitor to the Treasury were there. Quite a few sources mention this. This is official. The editorial office of The Law Times (236 vols from 1843 to 1965 when it merged into the New Law Journal) was there: [22] [23]. The Office of the General Council of the Bar might also have been there. James500 (talk) 12:42, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep and improve. Problems fixed. Stone Buildings obviously satisfies GNG. James500 (talk) 21:07, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep I am changing my vote to keep. Thanks to James500's excellent work the current article is clearly notable. With a few possible exceptions, most of the sets will not be individually notable so this is the right way to handle them in my view. I think the info boxes could also be removed. I haven't checked but if there are more then they could get the same sort of amalgamation. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:07, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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Tokyo Dawn Records

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Non-notable label associated with non-notable artists. Λeternus ^(talk) 18:09, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

• Keep. Article has been on wikipedia for almost 10 yrs. Numerous artists with Wikipedia pages (thus notable?) have links to the record label article. See links above (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Tokyo_Dawn_Records&limit=999) . —Gaff ^ταλκ
  • Article's lifespan on Wikipedia is irrelevant in establishing its subject's notability. Also, notability is not inherited, which means the subject needs to be independently covered by multiple reliable sources. --Λeternus ^(talk) 21:40, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
    • True, Lifespan on WP does not = notable, but it the number of notable artists with WP articles that link to this page (because it is their record label) does account for something. As for the sholar articles mentioned below: http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22Tokyo+Dawn+Records%22 (This is also avilable above this discussion on the "find sources" section. —Gaff ^ταλκ 22:35, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep. Several mentions on Google Scholar, appears to be a well established and respected netlabel. MEP MEP1697 (talk) 21:25, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Can you provide some links to these Google Scholar mentions? (Also keep in mind that trivial mentioning is not sufficient in establishing notability.) --Λeternus ^(talk) 21:40, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR). (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:25, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Matt Mason (singer)

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Last AFD closed as "no consensus". Rationale same as last time: Seems to fail WP:MUSIC. All coverage comes from the time that he won CMT's Next Superstar, with no subsequent coverage whatsoever. This seems to be a case similar to Angela Hacker, who won a season of Nashville Star but received no coverage after the fact. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 03:10, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

• Keep – In my view, the "keep" consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matt Mason (singer) was not at all unreasonable. There's coverage of him beyond just news of his Next Superstar win, for example in the Dayton Daily News I found there is coverage from 2012, and also a bit of coverage of him touring in 2013 (Don Thrasher. "The Top", Dayton Daily News 26 July 2013: p. AC.3.) Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 03:35, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was keep. Spartaz ^Humbug! 16:20, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Rickard William Lloyd

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I'm not sure meets criteria for WP:GNG. If he wrote two books that are un-noteworthy, does that warrant a need for an encyclopedia article? Otherwise, the article is an obituary, already publised elsewhere, 80 yrs ago. —Gaff ^ταλκ 07:46, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

An entry in Who's Who indicates notability.— Preceding unsigned comment added by MJT21 (talk • contribs) 6 September 2014

• • Sorry, but how so? Per Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Notes point # 5, a Who's Who entry does not prove notability —Gaff ^ταλκ 18:01, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

That note refers to Marquis Who's Who, an entirely different publication from Who's Who (UK) (and Who Was Who), which doesn't accept self-nominations. Qwfp (talk) 18:10, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

So do all 33,000 Britons listed listed in Who's Who (UK) have/need WP articles? I'm not arguing, just asking the question... —Gaff ^ταλκ 23:55, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

No. Clearly they don't all have WP articles at present, and I don't believe WP's coverage of UK people in any sense needs all of them to have WP articles. Nor do I believe having an entry in Who's Who should be sufficient to survive AfD. But I think it's an indicator of notability that can contribute, along with others. Qwfp (talk) 10:06, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

I disagree. We have always accepted, for example that an obit in the NYT is conclusive proof of notability. A & C Black's Who's Who belongs in the same category. It is very unlikely that the professional biographers of that publication would make a mistake about who is and isn't notable. James500 (talk) 07:18, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

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Keep. BMJ and Who Was Who are both independent, reliable sources, so meets WP:GNG. (I notice the nominator also added a tag to the page about possible WP:Conflict of interest, but the origin of this concern is not obvious to me.) Qwfp (talk) 17:30, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

COI tag deleted. —Gaff ^ταλκ 18:10, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

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Keep Rickard William Lloyd was a pioneering anaesthetist before it became the relatively 'unexceptional' role it is perceived as today MJT21 (talk) 19:33, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Delete No claim to notability. To use MJT21's word - unexceptional. Delete Bristolbottom (talk) 19:27, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep. Satisfies GNG. James500 (talk) 07:18, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

• Weak keep I'm not against using Who's Who to bolster notability, but it's not sufficient. I found his obit in BMJ, plus three articles (one of which is listed on the article but only by the title -- tsk tsk):

Dr. Rickard William Lloyd (this would be the obit) The British Medical Journal, Vol. 1, No. 3777 (May 27, 1933), p. 940

The Field Of View Of The Anaesthetist Rickard W. Lloyd The British Medical Journal, Vol. 1, No. 2198 (Feb. 14, 1903), pp. 401-402

Slow Heart Rickard W. Lloyd The British Medical Journal, Vol. 1, No. 3357 (May 2, 1925), p. 860

Fatal Collapse After Extirpation Of Kidney Rickard W. Lloyd The British Medical Journal, Vol. 2, No. 2642 (Aug. 19, 1911), pp. 409-410

The obit should yield some good information, but I do not have access to JSTOR, so I put these out there and hope that someone with better access can get to it and add to the article. Other than that, I found nothing other than the metadata for his book, but I can't find a digital copy (hoping for a nice intro with bio information). LaMona (talk) 22:55, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR). Of note is that the second !vote suggests topic notability, but doesn't qualify it. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:31, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Webix

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I believe Webix doesn't satisfy general notability guideline.

• Coverage in multiple independent sources is required; the only substantial articles are two on InfoQ [24] [25], but both are written by the same person, thus not independent. It's also not clear whether InfoQ falls under WP:SPS, see [26]
• Two cited sources [27] and [28] (now removed from article) I'd say are not substantial coverage. The 2nd is mostly a list of screenshots from the Webix website.

In addition, the article also has issues with tone and neutrality. -- intgr [talk] 17:50, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

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• GNG does not in absolute terms require multiple sources. James500 (talk) 02:01, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Webix was also mentioned in this article http://t3n.de/news/webix-form-builder-formular-generator-562130/. It tells about a new form generator Form Builder. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kelluvuus (talk • contribs) 13:12, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

• Week keep - Notability marginally established by [29] and [30] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kvng (talk • contribs)

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• Week keep - I know that there's room for improvement here, primarily because familiar with it myself enough to know that there are possibilities for more sources. I think it's a bit of a poor article, but not deletion worthy. Human.v2.0 (talk) 15:47, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

  @Human.v2.0: If you know there are more sources, please list them or add them to the article for future editors to build upon. -- intgr [talk] 07:53, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus (WP:NPASR). The source from The Daily Star is reliable, but it's debatable whether this is over the threshold of providing enough coverage to qualify as significant. I feel that this source falls short of providing significant coverage about the album. I'm unable to access the second source from ebanglamusic.org at this time. closing as no consensus due to 1) a lack of participation after two relistings and 2) a lack of discussion about the sources provided. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 11:15, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Doob (album)

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A solo album which has no notability at all. Wgolf (talk) 21:19, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep - passes WP:GNG, [31], [32]. --Zayeem ^(talk) 08:07, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep - per Kmzayeem. – nafSadh did say 02:20, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus. slakr^\ talk / 06:10, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

EUROMICRO

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AfD was closed because in 2 weeks as no consensus it had attracted only one comment. Does not appear to meet WP:ORG or WP:GNG. It has been nominated for deletion twice before (speedy and prod) by two different editors, but considered not to meet that criteria/possibly be notable. It has been tagged for notability for over six years without resolution. It would be good if this time there were more responses or it is relisted enough times to get a response - as this has been tagged for notability for more than 6 years, it is time it was resolved. Boleyn (talk) 20:33, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Notable. A publication of Euromicro, the Journal of Systems Architecture, has an ISI impact factor and therefore satisfies criteria 1 of WP:NJournals. I also found this. Its other publications also seem to be widely cited. The lack of response to the last AfD may indicate a "silent consensus" that Euromicro is notable. James500 (talk) 12:39, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete I agree with nom. A journal is affiliated to Euromicro, so what? NN. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 07:08, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

But it is not just any journal, it is a notable journal. James500 (talk) 11:08, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

• Weak Delete—This is a significant organization, but I don't see a path to establishing that it's a notable one. Lesser Cartographies (talk) 16:24, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
• If the journal is notable (and, unless I am mistaken, WP:NJournals seems to say that this one is) the organisation that produced it is automatically notable. We have always accepted that people can inherit notability from their publications. Putting the journal and the organisation that produced it into one article is how we normally handle borderline cases. Or at least it was in April of last year when I last discussed this. James500 (talk) 11:08, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

• Hi James500. I see you created Wikipedia:Notability (publishing). Can you give me a pointer to where this was discussed? Thanks! Lesser Cartographies (talk) 11:55, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

• That is just an essay that expresses what I think is an obvious application of GNG and LISTN. But IIRC, North Louisiana Historical Association was kept at AfD largely on the strength of NJournals. James500 (talk) 12:08, 17 September 2014 (UTC) Strike that, looking back at the AfD, it was an argument advanced by a number of veteran editors. James500 (talk) 12:22, 17 September 2014 (UTC) Update: The essay is now a draft proposal. James500 (talk) 21:25, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep. Publication through Elsevier and IEEE argue strongly for both standards of WP:NONPROFIT.
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• Keep I agree SBaker43's argument. A journal of the organization is in sciencedirect [33]. They hold international conferences and the proceedings are cited in many independent sources. Definitely meets the two criteria in WP:NONPROFIT. I am One of Many (talk) 07:03, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:03, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Brenda Julian

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An article I'm surprised was never marked for nobility before. This actress as only been in minor roles. Granted the shows are notable, but not her. And she has done nothing since this article started either. Wgolf (talk) 05:48, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

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Weak keep. Too many images, too many results, though whether they are reliable or not is questionable. --Mr. Guye (talk) 20:33, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete - "Too many images, too many results" isn't a valid reason to keep!, Anyway I can't find any evidence of any notability. –Davey2010 • (talk) 15:27, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete for lack of substantial coverage in independent reliable sources. Fails WP:NOTEBLP, fails WP:ENT. --Bejnar (talk) 04:32, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:04, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

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filming has not yet begun, it is too soon for an article BOVINEBOY2008 11:25, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• delete WP:NFF Gaijin42 (talk) 02:30, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

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and WP:INDAFD: Sujay Dahake

• Delete per failing WP:NFF (paragraph 3) and being TOOSOON. It might be mentioned and sourced in the director article at Sujay Dahake.[34] Advise author to study MOS:FILM to learn article format, and WP:V, WP:RS and WP:NF to understand sourcing requirements. Allow recreation in proper format only after filming has been confirmed and only if the production gets coverage. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 02:37, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was keep. —Tom Morris (talk) 12:53, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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Doesen't appear notable. The Lightning Strikes! ^{Try me!} 11:16, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep - player played at the highest level of domestic football in his country and multiple times for his country in international competition, clearly a notable player -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:30, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep - as a Greek international, he clearly passes WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:48, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep - He has seven international caps for his country at senior level, therefore he passes WP:NFOOTBALL. IJA (talk) 16:47, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep - meets WP:NFOOTBALL. Needs improving, not deleting. GiantSnowman 21:00, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Comment some votes suggest that the article should be kept because you like it. That doesen't work. No conclusions yet.The Lightning Strikes! ^{Try me!} 22:47, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
  • I think they're actually saying it should be kept because he passes notability guidelines! It does in fact appear to be you who is saying WP:IDONTLIKEIT, since you have provided no valid reason for deletion! -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:59, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
• Snowball keep - The Tharros article is significant coverage in a reliable source and as a Greek international player he easily satisfies NFOOTBALL. Nominator should have done a GNG check (or looked at the Tharros article though a web translation tool) before nominating a few-day-old article that clearly passes a SNG. Jogurney (talk) 01:04, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep clearly passes WP:NFOOTBALL has played for Greece.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 02:39, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep - Passes WP:NFOOTY due to international appearances. Fenix down (talk) 13:53, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep Article clearly states he had a few starts for Greek national team. Why then does User:Lightning BOLT! claim he isn't notable? Is the article wrong? Nfitz (talk) 22:53, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was Keep(non-admin closure).Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 04:56, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Virtuous (2014 film)

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Non-notable film, notability is not inherited from those involved in the film BOVINEBOY2008 11:16, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep per the following sources:

• Erik Estrada coming to Middle Georgia churches in The Telegraph (Macon, Georgia)
• Faith Lutheran to screen film with Erik Estrada in Highlands Today (edition of The Tampa Tribune)
• Christian movie showing to draw Jessica Lynch, Erik Estrada in Highlands Today
• Erik Estrada’s next faith-based movie to shoot in Rock Hill in Rock Hill Herald (Rock Hill, South Carolina)
• Virtuous film premieres at Sunset Theatre in The Courier-Tribune (Asheboro, North Carolina)
• North Etowah hosts 'Virtuous' film in The Daily Post-Athenian (Athens, Tennessee)

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• Keep per research by Erik. IE: WP:NRVE. While the nominator is correct in that notability is usually not "inherited" BUT, if such involvement brings the film significant coverage, the notability is established. Point here being Bovineboy, that no one is asserting the project is notable simply because of those involved, but rather is notable through the resulting coverage. The participants become secondary considerations to the coverage itself. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 01:28, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
  • It was the case that the article was deproded for exactly that justification. However, I do appreciate all the research provided by Erik. I am happy to withdraw this nomination. BOVINEBOY2008 07:26, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
    • For what it's worth, I found these sources by choosing "Past year" in Google's search tools when searching for keywords for the film. One can choose that or a date range to focus on a certain period during which a film may have been covered. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 11:29, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

• BIG thanks to Bovineboy for his withdrawal and to Erik for his diligent research. The 65 character (14 word) stub that was first nominated has gone through some easy changes to become so-far (with a 20x plus expansion) a 1786 character (295 word) C-class article to better serve the project. Anyone want to suggest a nice DYK?? . Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 04:08, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:HEY. I de-prodded it, as I thought that a film with this cast would likely be notable. It might turn out to be this year's Heaven's Gate, but who knows? I thought Ride Along was going to bomb, and while it got only 18 % on Rotten Tomatoes, it made lots of cash. Bearian (talk) 20:40, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

• Good catch and thanks Bearian. This now qualifies for a polite and happy speedy keep. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 21:54, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. postdlf (talk) 22:45, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Works of fiction set in 2034

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I know this is part of a series, so the same may apply to all (future) years in this series, I have only looked at this one. I have now nominated all future years in the same vein:

• Works of fiction set in 2015
• Works of fiction set in 2016
• Works of fiction set in 2017
• Works of fiction set in 2018
• Works of fiction set in 2019
• Works of fiction set in 2020
• Works of fiction set in 2021
• Works of fiction set in 2022
• Works of fiction set in 2023
• Works of fiction set in 2024
• Works of fiction set in 2025
• Works of fiction set in 2026
• Works of fiction set in 2027
• Works of fiction set in 2028
• Works of fiction set in 2029
• Works of fiction set in 2030
• Works of fiction set in 2031
• Works of fiction set in 2032
• Works of fiction set in 2033
• Works of fiction set in 2035
• Works of fiction set in 2061

There is no link between these works of fiction, the year 2034 is a random "near future" year which could have been 2035 or 2036 without any change to the works. The year 2034 is not a defining characteristic. "Works set in an alternate Earth where Hitler won WWII" would be a list of works with a clear, important (plot-defining) characteristic linking them. But being placed in the same future year? Or worse, looking at Works of fiction set in 2035, just having some plot element happening in that year? These are lists of basically unrelated trivia. Fram (talk) 09:33, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete - Also expand to whole series of these (from the makeshift navbox at top). We have categories "XXXX in fiction" that does this job just fine, as these lists are not providing any commentary about the year and just serve to list the works. --MASEM (t) 12:24, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
  • I'll expand this nomination to include all future years (I can imagine that different arguments apply to fiction set in the past...). Fram (talk) 13:24, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete this entire article scheme: the future articles named here, and the rest as found at Works of fiction by year (and that parent article). This is a trivial intersection better handled by categories (if at all), and which presents a litany of problems with inclusion and maintenance. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 15:02, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep (or merge back into year articles). It's clearly inappropriate as categories, per WP:CATDEF. I believe the claim that works of fiction are inappropriate in year articles was a very weak consensus, and might be revisited. (I must admit the same applies to "Category:Establishments in yyyy"....) I'm not going to emphasize WP:RETAIN, as I consider that a weak argument, but it is an argument. The decision of whether a work of fiction should be included needs more specific guidelines, but so do the criteria for factual events which appear in year articles. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:42, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Um, RETAIN is about keeping one variation of English (e.g. Australian English or British English) in an article. I don't see the relevance here. And whether the cats should exist or not is a separate discussion, keeping the lists or deleting should not be dependent on the existence or fate of the cats. Fram (talk) 18:37, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
    • My mistake, it was WP:PRESERVE. I should know better than to trust guidelines pointed to by the Kalamazoo Kid. It's still not a good argument, but it is an argument based on policy. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 19:09, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
      • But the info that X or Y is set in 2034 (or whatever year) is not lost, it is mentioned in the article about X or about Y. The bringing together of the information on one page is undone, but that is because it is not a notable combined topic. But no information is actually lost or removed from Wikipedia in this case. Fram (talk) 19:15, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Merge to the articles on their respective years. That is, have a 2028 in fiction section in the article 2028 and merge Works of fiction set in 2028 into [[2028]. Khemehekis (talk) 05:36, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

• Delete. Users can merge into years if they feel like it, but I don't consider it important. As the nominator has fairly pointed out, almost all future settings are vague and hypothetical, unlike historical settings. Theoretically, I'd consider keeping near-future categories in order to allow for works that posit specific counterfactuals (eg. "Three years into Mitt Romney's first term...") but it might be too hard to enforce and regardless, doesn't seem to be the case for any of the works currently on the lists for the next few years. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:21, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete. A bit too indiscriminate. Although somewhat better than "fictional works that feature a protagonist named Joe", these works are still very loosely connected to each other through what is not a defining feature of the work itself. An encyclopedic article could be written about near future settings, and I'm slightly surprised that we don't have one. Notable examples could be listed and discussed there. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:50, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete. It's too WP:SYNTHy and too WP:INUNIVERSEy. Bondegezou (talk) 10:42, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:05, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Enrique Felpi

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Non-notable boxer - does not come close to meeting WP:NBOX. Peter Rehse (talk) 08:16, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete Fails WP:NBOX. Fighting at Madison Square Garden does not make you notable.Mdtemp (talk) 18:27, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete Fails to meet either WP:NBOX or WP:GNG. The only sources are links to his fight record. Papaursa (talk) 22:34, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:05, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Cattle Herd Skirmish

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A minor altercation happened, just like on nearly every day in this period. No reliable independent source has given this skirmish significant attention (there are eyewitness accounts in published diaries, but these aren't independent of course), the name "Cattle Herd Skirmish" is a Wikipedia-only invention for a cattle raid that hasn't received a name in any source I could find.

The book "Battles and Skirmishes of the Great Sioux War, 1876-1877: The Military View",[35] 258 pages from the Univeristy of Oklahoma Press about the battles and skirmishes of this war, does not mention this skirmish, which seems rather definite proof that this is not a notable skirmish and more an attempt at writing history and conducting WP:OR than actually summarizing the existing secondary sources, which Wikipedia should do. Fram (talk) 07:04, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. This is getting really silly. Next up: Cavalry Officer Tongue Burning While Drinking Coffee. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:36, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete as utterly non-notable on its own. It was obviously part of a larger campaign and as such could be mentioned in that article, so I would not oppose a merge. Intothatdarkness 15:34, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete. Minor event with no legitimate historical significance. I'd safely consider Jerome Green's book (the one cited by Fram) definitive in the absence of strong evidence to the contrary; he's a significant expert in this period. And he doesn't mention it. The name given by this article is original research as well, a wholly novel coinage. Mostly, this just serves as a coatrack to elevate the importance of John Wright. I don't have access to the 1961 book used to reference the claim that he's considered the Great Sioux War's first casualty, but I can't find that assertion in the sources I have at hand. In the event this is deleted, references to it need to be excised from the several places they've been added in other articles. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 15:46, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was keep. j⚛e decker^talk 16:06, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Sheillah Molelekwa

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fails WP:GNG The Banner talk 22:02, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep - This nominator is making a bad faith, wholesale attempt to remove Miss Universe contestants. Each of them has achieved two events, their National win and their participation in the heavily media covered Miss Universe pageant. All of these Noms should be rejected now and the nominator The Banner should be banned from making such nominations in the future. This one already got covered in Time magazine wearing her national costume. After I'm through locating the damage this user is trying to do, I'll try to come back to add more sources, sources I know exist because they exist for all contestants of this worldwide televised, publicized event. Trackinfo (talk) 10:17, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Could you please stop with your personal attacks? The Banner talk 10:25, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep per Trackinfo.--Tomwsulcer (talk)`

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• Keep There seems to be fairly substantial coverage of this individual. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 04:49, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR). (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 11:36, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Winfrida Dominic

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fails WP:GNG The Banner talk 21:45, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

• Delete per nom - No evidence of notability, Only stuff I've found is Facebook related which isn't good enough. –Davey2010 • (talk) 21:48, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep based on past outcomes and growing consensus that Miss Universe contestants are almost always notable. Bearian (talk) 17:26, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
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  • Could you please stop with your personal attacks? The Banner talk 10:23, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR). (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:35, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Matthew Branton

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Based on what information I could find, I'm not convinced this author meets WP:AUTHOR's notability standards. One of the two press citations (the Independent) is broken and I couldn't find a correct reference at the Independent. That leaves only the Guardian. Second, giving away a free download may or may not be innovative enough to make him notable. Finally, the Amazon author page for Matthew Branton suggests that it's merging together multiple authors with similar names, so it's hard to find evidence of notability here either. Fiachra10003 (talk) 15:30, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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The Amazon page for Matthew Branton refers to the novelist and author Matthew Branton, and to one movie featuring the actor Matthew Branton, a completely different individual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manytrueroutes (talk • contribs) 09:01, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus. j⚛e decker^talk 16:34, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Seungpil Yu

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Insufficient evidence for notability. Head of non-notable company; other refs are routine notices. DGG ( talk ) 15:11, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Comment @DGG:, you're the resident expert on academics, can you shed any light on, if any, inherent notability of "Chief Director of Foundation at Sejong University"? I wouldn't consider the Korea Herald piece to be a "routine notice", but presuming the subject doesn't meet PROF, this single instance of significant, independent coverage doesn't meet GNG either. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 18:36, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Comment - Not clear (to me) that the company is not notable. It would be worth confirming this statement (from a Columbia Business School event bio): "Under his leadership, Yuyu has experienced significant growth and was recognized by Forbes magazine as Asia’s 200 Best Under A Billion in 2006." Seems to be listed on a stock exchange per A000220:KSC summary - FT.com. Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 14:42, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. SOFTDELETE j⚛e decker^talk 16:07, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

New Season (Israel & New Breed album)

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Speedy delete was declined on this article. Once I've removed the promo-speak there's little left other than an extremely excessive list of credits. I can't find anything in the form of reliable reviews or coverage about this album (it's released in the internet age). Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC. Sionk (talk) 10:10, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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A-Eiropa

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This unreferenced article doesn't indicate how they meet WP:NBAND Gbawden (talk) 06:45, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep fairly well known band in Latvia, just checking what links to their article on Latvian Wikipedia shows that they've been on several local charts and have been nominated for national music award several times ~~Xil (talk) 10:31, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. WP:SOFTDELETE j⚛e decker^talk 16:08, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Charlie Alex March

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A musician that seems to have not a lot of info other then a interview-nothing really links to here either. Wgolf (talk) 06:07, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was keep. New sources added to establish notability  Philg88 ^♦talk 04:09, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Fear of happiness

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The one apparently independent source, psychology today, just seems to mention it among many other things in an article that gives no references. DGG ( talk ) 00:28, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete Interesting content does not belong at what is essentially a neologism article. Shii (tock) 06:25, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

• Keep It is a moment's work to find more sources such as the British Journal of Clinical Psychology or Scientific American. Note that I'm merging in cherophobia which is the same topic per The Encyclopedia of Phobias, Fears, and Anxieties. We should prefer the title fear of happiness as it is plain English, and not jargon or a neologism. Andrew (talk) 07:02, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep. More than just a neologism. Well-enough sourced. Needs mention at happiness. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:55, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep the article is well referenced, but it can further be improved. Also it should expand to include physiological characters, like symptoms and treatment, besides cultural thinking. PlanetStar 22:26, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Consensus indicates failure to satisfy WP:PROF/WP:GNG. Article can be recreated should that change at some future date.  Philg88 ^♦talk 04:14, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Vasily Pestun

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An early-career physicist who fails WP:PROF: no evidence of broad impact in his field, no major awards, no high-profile academic posts, etc. He's worked at some fancy schools, but notability is not inherited. He may have promise, but it's too soon to say whether he will one day be notable. Lagrange613 00:32, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

I don't understand your claim -- he does have a very, very high-profile academic position. IHES is no joke. He is a permanent professor there. This is perhaps equivalent to being a permanent professor at the Institute for Advanced Study. Pestun hence complies at least with criterion 6 in the list of WP:PROF. --Zatrp (talk) 13:32, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Criterion 6 is about holding a "highest-level" post, i.e. being president of a university or a society. See WP:PROF#C6. Lagrange613 00:20, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

At IHES, permanent professorship is indeed the highest academic position available. Other positions, like president or director, would be of a more symbolic/administrative nature. --Zatrp (talk) 20:37, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Weak delete. I don't believe a full professorship alone, even at IHES, is enough for WP:PROF. And in a high-citation subject, his Google scholar profile [36] shows only one big hit, a good start but not enough by itself to convince me of a pass of WP:PROF#C1. (Incidentally, although GS shows this paper as an arXiv preprint, it has been reliably published, in Communications in Mathematical Physics 2012.) Is there something else besides these two things that I'm missing? —David Eppstein (talk) 19:09, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete. Google is kind enough to provide his h-index; 14 in a high hindex field. Buh bye. Abductive (reasoning) 23:29, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep. Those claiming that IHES permanent professorship is not enough should produce an example of such a professor that was not notable in the past, I think. That would be very surprising -- so much so that it would make him notable! --Zatrp (talk) 20:58, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

  This invocation of the interesting number paradox is cute. Were it valid then Wikipedia would have to have on article on every member of every ordered set of people containing at least one notable person. But fortunately it's not, because notability depends on an article's topic, not analogy to other hypothetical article topics. Notability is not the absence of a non-notable point of reference. It's a positive quality, not a negative one. Lagrange613 00:09, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete I don't see the sourcing required to meet WP:GNG nor do I think he meets WP:PROF. 131.118.229.17 (talk) 22:59, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus. j⚛e decker^talk 16:33, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

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Apparently non-notable singer. Blatant COI, so obvious that even Wikipediocracy has noticed it. Eligible as G11? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 23:25, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete - as per nom Gbawden (talk) 14:05, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
• A previous version of this article claimed that Stassen won a South African Music Award in 1997, which, if confirmed, would surely make her notable. Unfortunately I can't find any list of past winners at the SAMA web site. 82.9.185.151 (talk) 20:06, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep She has been discussed in a number of notable Afrikaans media (Beeld, Vrouekeur, etc)--Michael (talk) 17:43, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:41, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

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fails WP:GNG The Banner talk 21:49, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

• Delete per nom - No evidence of notability, Only stuff I've found is Facebook related which isn't good enough. –Davey2010 • (talk) 21:48, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep - This nominator is making a bad faith, wholesale attempt to remove Miss Universe contestants. Each of them has achieved two events, their National win and their participation in the heavily media covered Miss Universe pageant. All of these Noms should be rejected now and the nominator The Banner should be banned from making such nominations in the future. After I'm through locating the damage this user is trying to do, I'll try to come back to add more sources, sources I know exist because they exist for all contestants of this worldwide televised, publicized event. Trackinfo (talk) 10:16, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Could you please stop with your personal attacks? The Banner talk 10:26, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete.Move to neutral I am unpersuaded by arguments from precedent, given that it's entirely possible that the precedent is not, in fact, in line with actual policy. And that is, in my view, the case here: this contestant (and many others) easily faily WP:GNG and thus the articles should be deleted. I also find it utterly unseemly that "Trackinfo" is attempting to get another user banned from AFD, simply because s/he doesn't like that user's nominations. Very bad form indeed. LHM^{ask me a question} 18:03, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

  While I remain convinced that such pageants should be treated like reality programs are, with contestants being redirected to the main article, it's clear that there are multiple sources for the contestants. I'm still unconvinced that simply because there are sources, that an article is merited, particularly given WP:ONEEVENT, but am switching my recommendation to "neutral", based on the fact that I was mistaken about the lack of sources. I do, of course, reserve the right to renominate this article (and others) at a future date, using more apt reasoning than the current nomination presents. My apologies for not looking deeper into the sourcing before making my comments above. LHM^{ask me a question} 15:55, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

As I said I would, I added more sources. I could easily go on, but why lard up the article? My point was that The Banner deliberately chose to ignore the additional available sources because this series of nominations are his way of making a WP:POINT, and while a Wikipedia talk:Notability (people)#Beauty pageant contestants discussion he is involved in is going on. In my book, that is bad faith. On Wikipedia, we are supposed to deal with facts, whether it is discussing known properties of a chemical reaction or talking about whether a beauty queen is important to some people. The Banner misrepresented the absence of sources. LHM, did you look? Trackinfo (talk) 18:58, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

No, my friend, you are making a WP:POINT by accusing me of all kinds of bad things. Just admit that you don't like my nominations and that you prefer personal attacks above arguments. Despite what ever happened, I am still not convinced about her notability as notability is never inherited. The Banner talk 15:58, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

• Keep: Sources added since nomination help confirm WP:GNG is met.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 20:43, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR). (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:43, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

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fails WP:GNG The Banner talk 21:36, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

• Delete per nom - No evidence of notability, Only stuff I've found is Facebook related which isn't good enough. –Davey2010 • (talk) 21:48, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Assuming her credentials can be verified with reliable sources, Keep based on past outcomes and growing consensus that Miss Universe contestants are almost always notable. Bearian (talk) 17:30, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep - This nominator is making a wholesale attempt to remove Miss Universe contestants. Each of them has achieved two events, their National win and their participation in the heavily media covered Miss Universe pageant. I've had to explain to the Nom the meaning of WP:Before and the meaning of bad faith. All of these Noms should be rejected now and the nominator The Banner should be banned from making such nominations in the future. After I'm through locating the damage this user is trying to do, I'll try to come back to add more sources, sources I know exist because they exist for all contestants of this worldwide televised, publicized event. Trackinfo (talk) 18:53, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Could you please stop with the personal attacks. The Banner talk 21:21, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR). Due to limited input after two relistings with only one user responding to the nomination, closing as no consensus with no prejudice against speedy renomination. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:54, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Arjun Singh Sethi

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As per WP:BEFORE I have attempted to find reliable sources that give the subject significant coverage, and have not found any secondary or tertiary reliable sources that give the subject significant coverage. Futhermore, the subject of this article does not appear to meet the more stringent notability guideline of WP:AUTHOR; although the subject has received some minor awards from their alma maters it does not appear to meet the requirement set forth part 4, subpart c of "has won significant critical attention" as the awards are not at the same level as national level awards such as the Pulitzer Prize, Caldecott Medal, or any of the other literary awards listed by the ALA. Therefore, although the individual is an active advocate, writer of opinion, and occasional panelist that is sought to elicit opinion on national news networks, as the subject themselves has not received significant coverage about themselves it appears that the subject fails WP:GNG & AUTHOR.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 21:05, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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Keep: Hello, RightCowLeftCoast. I appreciate your feedback which has helped me to improve the article. I have rewritten it and added a number of sources. This article fulfills WP:NOTEBLP. Arjun Singh Sethi's writings on a variety of topics have been cited in both works of scholarship and a number of media outlets and all comments below are now fully referenced in the article.

His expertise on matters related to the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting was cited in the scholarly journal Sikh Formations: Religion, Culture, Theory. It has also led him to be interviewed by the BBC and HuffPost Live and he has been cited on the subject by Al Jazeera, The Wire, Newser, India Abroad, and Tikkun. In addition, The Washington Post and The Los Angeles Times published his essays on the same topic, works which were then syndicated by papers around the country.

Additionally, he has been cited by the Yale Law Journal. Furthermore, his writings on the landmark Gideon v. Wainwright case were cited by both the Texas Court system and The National Coalition for a Civil Right to Counsel. The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees also reprinted one of his essays in full on its website. Finally his essays have been published by notable media outlets such as The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, Al Jazeera, The Christian Science Monitor, CNN, The Guardian, USA Today, and the Huffington Post.

Given the number and quality of references, including secondary sources, this article satisfies Wikipedia:Notability and thus should not be deleted.-Classicfilms (talk) 18:12, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

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Comment: I have trimmed and reorganized the article. I am providing a new list below. Arjun Singh Sethi fulfills the following areas of Wikipedia:Notability (people) for creative professionals or WP:AUTHOR:

He is “widely cited by peers” (#1) and as a subject matter expert, his works have garnered “significant critical attention” (#4):

In Scholarship:

• a. Yale Law Journal: Shah, Reema.”Beating Blackwater: Using Domestic Legislation to Enforce the International Code of Conduct for Private Military Companies.‘’Yale Law Journal’’ Vol. 23, #7 May 2014.

• b. Sikh Formations: Religion, Culture, Theory: Thobani, Sunera.”RACIAL VIOLENCE AND THE POLITICS OF NATIONAL BELONGING: THE WISCONSIN SHOOTINGS, ISLAMOPHOBIA AND THE WAR ON TERRORIZED BODIES.”Sikh Formations: Religion, Culture, Theory.’’ Volume 8, Issue 3, 2012.

• c. Scholar: St. Mary's Law Review on Race and Social Justice, Clarke, Theresa. "State Institutions Without Walls: Chronic Homelessness for People With Mental Illness Can Be Brought to an End." Scholar: St. Mary's Law Review on Race and Social Justice, 16 (2003).

In the media:

• a. CNN states that he is "a frequent commentator on civil rights and social justice-related issues."

• b. BBC:

• b2: KPFA: Flashpoints, KPFA, 94.1 FM KPFA interview, September 4, 2014.

• C. Huffington Post

• D. Al Jazeera

• E. The Wire

• F. Newser

• G. India Abroad,

• H. Tikkun Daily,

• I. Truthdig,

• J. Daily Kos,

• K. TeleSUR, and

• L. RealClearPolicy (the sister site to RealClearPolitics).

Note: The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, Al Jazeera, The Christian Science Monitor, CNN, The Guardian, USA Today, and the Huffington Post have all published work by him. While primary sources, these are notable outlets - see main article for these references.

By non-profits and legal organizations:

• a. National Partnership for Women & Families

• b. The National Coalition for a Civil Right to Counsel

• c. Texas Court System

Since this fulfills Wikipedia:Notability (people) for creative professionals or WP:AUTHOR, this article should not be deleted. -Classicfilms (talk) 05:45, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Additional Comment: Since the page was created on September 4, 2014, it has received 1438 views as of September 28, 2014. -Classicfilms (talk) 20:50, 28 September 2014 (UTC):

Additional Comment: Up to 1520 views as of September 29, 2014. -Classicfilms (talk) 02:08, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. (soft) slakr^\ talk / 06:11, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Nicolas Moreau

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The link that was here went to a spam site. No notability (also the French language one links to a different person then this one) Trying to find anything on him right now Wgolf (talk) 01:08, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Hi. I'm the creator of the page, mainly because he has the same name as me, different spelling. I discovered him, featured in a special section published by Marketing Magazine to sell the new TV season to advertisers. He was a featured graphic in the French language station section. Here's a page about him, from another website: http://www.galadesgrandschefs.ca/richelieu_yamaska/saintjeansurrichelieu/doc/NicolasMoreau.pdf and an interview: http://www.cuisine-plus.tv/cid6489/nicolas-moreau.html but unfortunately lesrecettesdenicolas.com doesn't seem to have been archived by the Wayback Machine. -- Zanimum (talk) 12:08, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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-Well thanks, now I'm not sure what to say about the other languages part as I'm unable to delete the French page that links to it that is to a different person (usually it works but it isn't for this guy)Wgolf (talk) 20:05, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

I've fixed that. It wasn't actually linked through the Wikidata process, but merely through the old direct-link-in-the-article style of interlanging. Bearcat (talk) 07:47, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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• I gave him a shot at ProQuest's Canadian Newsstand Major Dailies database, but unfortunately the only sources that turned up about him were both titled "Spring & Summer Social Calendar". (Substantive coverage fail, bien sûr.) And I'm having about as much luck as the nominator with Google, too — I'm finding lots of commercial/promotional confirmation that he exists, but not a lot of the reliable independent source coverage necessary to support a WP:BLP on Wikipedia. And the chef doesn't even have an article on fr: either — even though the actor is disambiguated there, the undisambiguated fr:Nicolas Moreau is just a redirect to him rather than an article about the chef or a dab page. So I'm going to have to go with the delete here, albeit without prejudice against recreation in the future if somebody can actually locate some actual sourcing. Bearcat (talk) 08:07, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:09, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

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Had this as a Prod but person deleted it-a player who has yet to go pro yet. Now I think he might need a page soon, but for now way too soon, still in HS. Wgolf (talk) 01:18, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete Way too soon. Nothing even close to a claim of notability. Jackmcbarn (talk) 21:32, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete We may need an article on this young man someday, but for now it is way WP:TOOSOON. --MelanieN (talk) 20:27, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus. j⚛e decker^talk 16:10, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

PrimeFaces

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Article was deleted in 2011 after AFD discussion. A new article has been created by an SPA. However, I'm nominating it for discussion rather than speedy deletion as a bit of research suggests that the product may have gained some traction in the Enterprise JavaBeans/Oracle world. I'm a comp. sci. by education but not familiar enough with this area to be able to say for sure whether or not the product has achieved notability Fiachra10003 (talk) 15:39, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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• keep PrimeFaces is a commercial product, specifically a JSF (Java Server Faces) implementation. So are IceFaces and RichFaces. If were to go after articles for being commercial, then lets start with Ford and Apple. If JSF is "non notable" and too "specialised"[37], then there are a whole bunch of articles to go after. There are many JSF implementations, but these are the three big and popular ones. Knowing precisely which is the biggest or most popular would need more market research than I can pay for, but these are the three that developers are talking about. Why is PrimeFaces being singled out? Viam Ferream (talk) 08:27, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
  • If I can just focus on today's debate, (a) has Java Server Faces become a frequently used product? The Java Server Faces article somewhat implies that it's withered on the vine; (b) are you telling us that PrimeFaces, IceFaces and RichFaces are the three leading implementations of Java Server Faces? (c) can you give us any more color on the breadth of use of the product? Fiachra10003 (talk) 14:41, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
    • "Has <any Java component> become a frequently used product?"

Java is an 800 pound gorilla. Even its little finger is pretty powerful. What is the official WP mapping for "frequently used" onto WP:N? Is buggy whip deleted yet?

JSF is unfashionable. Thoughtworks[38] don't like it (per the usual WP source for "Why to delete JSF"). Yet Thoughtworks are still paying attention to it, thus it is notable. JSF is the favoured tool of the deeply corporate, straight-down-the-line whatever-Sun-says J2EE web app shop. Even if the hip young things are too busy with JS-based front ends to notice them, these are the apps that probably deliver your utility bill and your credit card statement.

As to which of the JSF implementations are the big names, then you've only got my opinion (as a JSF developer) to go on (for my usual consultancy rates, you can get it in writing instead), but these are the three (and really only these three) that have any sizable discussion of them within the J2EE community. Maybe MyFaces too, just as its Apache's reference implementation.

As to "The WP article has withered", then that's much more because WP is increasingly seen as an irrelevance to the technical community, not that WP has declared that platform to be irrelevant. Viam Ferream (talk) 15:07, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

• • • • Heres some typical programmer discussion about the merits of the 3: [39]. As is entirley typical, some began with Icefaces but found it a bit slow, Primefaces looks to be the eventual leader.

Google Trends for the big 3 JSF [40]

I'm not claiming that JSF is necessarily the way to go to build a web app, or even a Java web app. The "start up" Java world is ignoring it, even if the corporate suit-and-tie world uses it. If JSF is a notable topic though, the big three are Ice, Rich & Prime and there is some indication that PrimeFaces is the favoured leader amongst these. Viam Ferream (talk) 08:28, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

• Comment - a cursory search comes up with few, if any, reliable sources, but I'll wait for a more in-depth search to decide. Both of you are barking up the wrong tree as far as notability goes. Ansh666 22:45, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Wrong tree? Viam Ferream (talk) 08:28, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

• Comment - Article has been updated to remove any parts close to advertisement. Please review. cagatay.civici 22:30, 10 September 2014 (UTC+3)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:10, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

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Article was deleted in the past for sparse sourcing, promotional content and failure of WP:GNG. The article is now back, but it does not appear to have been improved since the last deletion discussion. It contains only 3 sources of dubious reliability: one of them is a forum post and two are blog entries on ForexMinute and CryptocoinsNews. The author of the CryptocoinsNews article admits to owning a "small amount" of Reddcoin, so they might not be considered an independent source. Breadblade (talk) 15:06, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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Strong delete per nom. Forum posts and cryptoblogs aren't reliable sources. Citation Needed | He cites it for free. 21:56, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete Fails WP:CORP. The article does not provide coverage from independent reliable sources, and I could find no coverage in a search. Not surprising since the company is less than a year old. --MelanieN (talk) 20:31, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was redirect to Bryan Woods. More or less a redirect flavored SOFTDELETE j⚛e decker^talk 16:11, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Her Summer

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Does not appear to meet WP:NFILM or WP:GNG Boleyn (talk) 13:02, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete for failing WP:NF. Redirect to director Bryan Woods. One nice review at Quad-City Times and two awards at a minor Des Moines film festival[41] do not push it over the edge for me. Not a bad effort for a student film. I wish the filmmaker luck for the future. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 02:52, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Drmies (talk) 18:07, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Alina Li

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This is another instance where it really pains me to bring an article to AfD (because Alina Li is one of my favorite new performers), but...I made a mistake deprodding this because I thought I found some Fanny Award wins for her, but then I realized that those were only nominations ([42] [43]). I couldn't find anything else, so she thus (unfortunately) fails WP:PORNBIO. Erpert ^{blah, blah, blah...} 05:26, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Comment. She has coverage in AVN and XBIZ, but I'm not sure if this is enough to pass the WP:GNG. Rumor has it she quit porn. Her FreeOnes page lists her Career Status as Retired (Quick Bio Info section on the right). She is also not listed on Spiegler Girls (her agency) anymore. If she quit the business for good, then there will be no more coverage of her in the future and we wouldn't have much to write an article on since her career was so brief. In my personal opinion though, she will probably be back. She is the biggest newcomer in the adult industry this year and will likely be nominated for every Best New Starlet award. I honestly think she has a possibility of winning too if she does return on-time. It's not like this hasn't happened before. Rebecca1990 (talk) 07:23, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
  • I wouldn't object to userfication then. (SN: I'm not sure FreeOnes is a reliable source.) Erpert ^{blah, blah, blah...} 08:53, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
    • As I said, her retirement is just a rumor, but I'm pretty convinced that it's true. The Rob Black Show is certainly not a reliable source and the reliability of FreeOnes is probably as controversial as the reliability of IAFD or IMDB. But we do know for sure that she is no longer available for bookings on Spiegler Girls and her Twitter was deleted. I was one of her followers and I remember her final tweet being an announcement about her selling all of her porn star wardrobe. Rebecca1990 (talk) 10:45, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
      • If waht Rebecca1990 said about her tweeter is true,i suggest it is better to delete the page.If Alina li quit,it proves Alina li wants to forget her past in the adult film industry.After all,most Chinese people still think sex is a private thing,what she did may be viewed as a disgrace to the country and Chinese people.Also most of porn actresses came to a pityful ending.I wish her the best.竖琴老人(talk) 00:22, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
        • Actually, Rebecca, I put the reliability of FreeOnes right up there with Boobpedia (which is one of the most badly written wikis I have ever seen, btw). But maybe that's just me. And 竖琴老人, if she indeed retired, that alone isn't a reason for an article to be deleted; plenty of retired porn (as well as mainstream) actors have articles on here. Erpert ^{blah, blah, blah...} 21:56, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Comment. I have rewritten the entire article. I have placed additional sources in the "External links" section (hidden from readers; can only be viewed by editing) so other users can expand the article. I'm honestly just too lazy to read those interviews right now, but I might do it later. Rebecca1990 (talk) 06:16, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete per the logical of my original PROD. Still fails PORNBIO, still no independent reliable sourcing, only significant source added is the standard kayfabe promotional interview of no determinable reliability. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 18:40, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
  • FYI, AVN and XBIZ are both reliable sources. There are two reliable sources in the article, not just one, one from AVN and one from XBIZ. Both of those sources are independent of the subject. Those interviews aren't "kayfabe" or "promotional". I'm pretty sure Alina Li did not contact AVN and XBIZ and say "Please do an interview on me. I'm new to the industry and I need some exposure." If it worked that way everybody in the industry would do it and AVN and XBIZ would be mostly interviews. There are actually very few interviews in AVN and XBIZ. Interviews actually take place when an editor from either magazine chooses to write and article on someone in the industry. What's promotional about that? If this was a mainstream website and a mainstream actor, no one would make this argument, not even you. Why is it so difficult in our society for people in the sex industry to be taken seriously? AVN and XBIZ are real, reliable news sources with qualified journalists. I'm tired of you dismissing them. Porn is a legal, legitimate business with legitimate news reporters and legitimate award ceremonies, just like in the mainstream film or music industries. Rebecca1990 (talk) 01:44, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
• Weak Keep. She fails WP:PORNBIO by a strict interpretation, but I think there is an argument to be made that the exceptionally large amount that has been written about her by porn industry sources such as AVN and XBIZ makes her a special case. --Sammy1339 (talk) 23:47, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:12, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Zul Vilani

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His only role is as a voice in a film. (The film granted was nominated for foreign film) This does not quite make him notable though. I say redirect to the film. Wgolf (talk) 01:50, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Delete: - I concur with Wgolf. The articles have not developed since I made them quite a few years ago and thus should be deleted.-Classicfilms (talk) 03:27, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete unless he can be shown to meet WP:NACTOR or have enough coverage to meet WP:GNG. —innotata 04:52, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. WP:BIODELETE j⚛e decker^talk 16:14, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Homeira Riazi

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An actress with just 3 very minor roles. Seems not to be not notable as of now. Wgolf (talk) 00:00, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:00, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Neda Soltani

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Not notable independently of Death of Neda Agha-Soltan, per WP:1E. eh bien mon prince (talk) 11:32, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Weak keep. The circulation of Soltani's photo, and how it affected her life, has received some pretty solid coverage (including the BBC and The Guardian) which is very much independent of the death of her near-namesake, and has made its way into some serious academic discussions (see doi:10.1353/bio.2011.0004 and this book). I think the mistake, as well as the subsequent coverage of her life, is sufficiently notable that the article can be kept. If not, a section in the article on the death would certainly be appropriate. J Milburn (talk) 16:37, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete. The claim to notability is basically a case of mistaken identity. Agricola44 (talk) 15:06, 9 September 2014 (UTC).
  • So what? There are lots of cases of mistaken identity which are highly significant and worthy of encyclopedic coverage. The question is whether this is one of them. J Milburn (talk) 16:30, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

• In other words, it's textbook WP:BLP1E having no WP:LASTING significance. Agricola44 (talk) 19:35, 9 September 2014 (UTC).

• Keep as per J Milburn. Numerous references here. The reason the issue is encyclopedic is the whole evolving power of the Internet, as well as Facebook as a protest medium versus governments, meaning this story, even if dependent on a mistaken identity, will be increasingly important.--Tomwsulcer (talk)`

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:14, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Alex Marcoux

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Non notable author. WorldCat holdings for her novels ar 56 (Back to Salem) 43 (A matter of degrees) and 48 (Facades). This is about as trivial as it gets for fiction. Lifesigns and Serendipity are not even in WorldCat . The scientific career is utterly trivial:with only a BS, she would have been a lab assistant. The awards are utterly trivial, or only finalists.

It was written by a known promotional editor, now blocked. see BLPN Though i've brought it here instead of just using G11, I have no objection if another admin wants to speedy. DGG ( talk ) 02:53, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete – the sources are either not independent of the subject or do not provide significant coverage. --Hirolovesswords (talk) 06:47, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete – per nom. Not a notable author. No important works, achievements, or awards, and sources are insignificant and/or promotional. INeverCry 00:37, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete per above - No evidence of Notability. –Davey2010 • (talk) 06:05, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. SOFTDELETE j⚛e decker^talk 16:33, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

CytoSolve

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Does not meet WP:CORPDEPTH; only secondary coverage is passing mentions. Not as relevant, but founder of company also has a bit of a history with Wikipedia (see Talk:Email and Talk:Shiva Ayyadurai). IRW0 (talk) 01:14, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete The article appears to be copiously referenced, but many of the references are about the founder or papers written by employees (or in some cases unrelated papers which cover techniques used by the company). A search on google news reveals this india times post, but that's mainly about the controversy over "inventing email". Protonk (talk) 14:06, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:20, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Mladen Reljanović

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non notable person. aspiring filmmaker. declined speedy and declined prod. Gaijin42 (talk) 15:53, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

• Delete. No indication of meeting WP:GNG or of notability as an actor. I would also recommend deleting The Strange Mind, which was created by the same author (now blocked) as part of this walled garden. --Kinu ^t/_c 16:01, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete per above and my argument here, which is summed up as follows: Essentially there is no coverage for this director and the search results gave me little to suspect that there would be coverage in any language that would not show up in a Google search of the director's name. (IE, Cyrillic Serbian) Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:25, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR). (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:02, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

BlackCoin

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Non-notable cryptocurrency whose only reliable source comes from a Wall Street Journal blog amidst a sea of coin blogs. Has only been occasionally edited minorly by IPs. Can't seem to find anything else in terms of a verifiable, reliable source for this coin. Citation Needed | He cites it for free. 13:52, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

• Comment - On non-notable cryptocurrency front - Joshua Bouw, Blackcoin Foundation international PR director, recently took part on panels at Huobi and OKCoin events as only altcoin representative

See:

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=599299.msg8801544#msg8801544
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=599299.msg8801961#msg8801961
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=599299.msg8802038#msg8802038

I think that in itself makes it pretty notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.212.101.88 (talk) 16:22, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

• Comment - Some sources that can be used for the article:

• http://www.followthecoin.com/interview-creator-blackcoin-bc/
• http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/06/05/bitbeat-blackcoin-tries-to-stake-its-proof-as-legit-bitcoin-alternative/
• http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2014/05/23/1859942/whod-have-thought-cryptocurrencies-are-replicating-conventional-systems/
• https://coinreport.net/blackcoin-in-top-10/
• http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/talking-to-blackcoin/2014/04/14

In addition, BlackCoin was mentioned by CitiBank as having "significant transactional volume":

• https://ir.citi.com/RZh%2B9GHcy3eQvegHG9vuU3r5%2FxkjXBMMfUnULRTyibawadNFQRrrFA%3D%3D

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.81.237.164 (talk) 08:21, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

• I've added a primary source for this coin, the original announcement on BitcoinTalk, referencing the coin's launch date. Greenmon2 - Solved :-) | 10:10, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

• Blackcoin was mentioned on Reuters as well - http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/04/09/idUKnGNX9m2PlG+1c5+GNW20140409 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.81.207 (talk) 12:49, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

• This appears to be a press release issued by BlackCoin. Breadblade (talk) 14:43, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

• Some citations added:

• http://maxborgesagency.com/max-borges-agency-first-pr-firm-to-accept-blackcoin-payment/
• http://www.phnompenhpost.com/business/crypto-currency-eyes-cambodia-new-terminals
• http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/19/idUSnGNX4Lm53x+1d0+GNW20140619

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• Weak Keep For a crypto coin the article seems to have a reasonable amount of sourcing from coin-related blogs as well as a little bit of coverage from real news sources (WSJ and Financial Times bloggers, from the looks of it). Some of the sources only provide trivial mentions, though, and I'm not sure of the reliability of "payments source" and the coin blog. Breadblade (talk)

• There is over 50 articles we can cite. Several published in different countries as well. In arabic and portuguese. Will post shortly. Blackcoins BlackHalo was the worlds first smart contracting program. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.101.95.200 (talk) 06:13, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. SOFTDELETE j⚛e decker^talk 16:32, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Stefan Siegel

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Fails the notability criteria for biographies and the general notability guideline. The current sources are a broken link and two passing mentions. Google turns up interviews, passing mentions in relation to Not Just a Label, social media, and false positives. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 00:11, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Leaning delete/Comment - Actually, if the interviews are used as the basis for an article with plenty of editorial commentary, then they should be valid sources. While Siegel does give good answers (as here), these are more suitable as sources for an article on Not Just a Label, which does seem like it would pass notability requirements. If this were an article about the company, then it would probably pass muster, but I am not seeing much to show that the founder passes the criteria for an article solely on him. On the other hand, NJAL is clearly drawing a lot of attention, respect and is the reason people are interviewing Siegel, so this article should really have been a brief biographical section on a company page. Mabalu (talk) 02:13, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:18, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Daniel J. Allie

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Yet another campaign brochure, completely unsourced except for primary sources like his own website, for yet another as-yet-unelected candidate in yet another forthcoming election. As usual, merely being a candidate in an election is not, in and of itself, a claim of notability that passes WP:NPOL, and neither is being a city councillor in a city with a population of 41K — if you cannot credibly demonstrate that the candidate was already notable enough for something else to qualify for a Wikipedia article before he became a candidate, then he does not become notable enough for a Wikipedia article until he wins the election. No prejudice against recreation in November if he wins his seat, but until then he's a delete. Bearcat (talk) 06:07, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete – Unreferenced BLP that appears to take much of its information straight from the subject's campaign site. Fails WP:GNG and Wikipedia:POLITICIAN. --Hirolovesswords (talk) 06:54, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete Neither being a member of he Westfield City Council nor being a candidate for the Massachusetts State House provides inherent notability. Furthermore, there are no sources in the article at all. Tiller54 (talk) 17:29, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete Doesn't meet WP:POL and is basically an unsourced BLP. 131.118.229.17 (talk) 23:57, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete I would have said to redirect to Massachusetts House of Representatives election, 2014, but it seems no-one has bothered to write that article. --MelanieN (talk) 20:43, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:18, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Claude E. Gagna

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Not notable, like most associate professors.. The highest citations any of his articles has received is 21, and h= 8. Though I do not judge exclusively or even primarily by h values, numbers like this are so low as to make the lack of notability under WP:PROF very clear, considering that he works in a field where citations are normally quite high. Many people have studied Z-DNA, an extremely important topic; he is not prominent in the field, let alone an authority. The list of awards is nonsense: most of them are student or in-college awards, which do not count toward notability. The only one even worth considering is "NJ inventors Hall of Fame", and I am not convinced that it really has any significance either. "He will be receiving patents in the future" is a clear indication of"not yet notable"

I have consistently for many years tried to increase our deplorably inadequate coverage of notable academic researchers, but not all academic researchers are notable. We need to concentrate on the ones who are. I should note that I tend now to be rather skeptical about academics where the awards or accomplishments are listed in a table: this is not our style, and it indicates that the article was written by someone not familiar with WP, usually someone associated with the subject, or a PR agent for their organization. DGG ( talk ) 08:10, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete. When DGG nominates an article for deletion, there is no mistake. Also, article makes no coherent claim of notability for this one of millions of professors in the world. Abductive (reasoning) 23:31, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete Nothing to show he's a notable academic, lacks significant independent coverage, and his list of awards is unimpressive. 131.118.229.17 (talk) 23:55, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete Fails WP:ACADEMIC. Nominator's research is persuasive. --MelanieN (talk) 20:45, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. WP:SOFTDELETE j⚛e decker^talk 16:18, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

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No evidence of meeting notability. Probably still meets CSD A7, under which it was deleted once already, but here we are. —Swpb^talk 21:21, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was redirect to Not Strictly Rubens. (non-admin closure) –Davey2010 • (talk) 17:38, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

The Key to the Kingdom (Praga Khan song)

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Song that has been tagged since 2011 with nothing indicating notability. Wgolf (talk) 03:33, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

• Redirect to Not Strictly Rubens, the parent album. Fails WP:NSONG. BethNaught (talk) 09:05, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Redirect to Not Strictly Rubens, the parent album per BethNaught. There is no separate coverage of this song in RS, and it fails WP:NSONG. --Bejnar (talk) 20:59, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:17, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Alex Sobel

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Local councillor and Parliamentary candidate and, as such, fails WP:POLITICIAN. Some reliable source coverage exists, but it is either not independent of the source (e.g. Labour Party related) or not significant coverage of the individual. (Note AfDs on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adrian Heald and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamie Hanley (3rd nomination): similar articles created by the same editor.) Bondegezou (talk) 10:55, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

The question is whether the subject is notable. Not whether the article is notable. I've added some more material which is independent.Rathfelder (talk) 18:06, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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Thanking you for developing the article; I'm afraid it still doesn't look notable to me. I don't understand what you mean by, "The question is whether the subject is notable. Not whether the article is notable." Bondegezou (talk) 20:52, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Candidates for office do not qualify for Wikipedia articles under WP:NPOL just for being candidates (nor do city councillors qualify for articles under NPOL just for being city councillors.) If you cannot adequately source that he was already sufficiently notable for a Wikipedia article before becoming a parliamentary candidate, then he does not become notable enough for a Wikipedia article until he wins the election. It is potentially possible for a city councillor in a city the size of Leeds to qualify for an article — he's not entitled to an automatic keep on that basis, but could still be considered sufficiently notable if you wrote a really substantial article about his work as a city councillor and power-sourced it over the WP:GNG hump. But that's not what's been done here — as written, this is barely more than a campaign brochure, and Wikipedia's inclusion rules for politicians (and our content rules governing even the politicians who do qualify for coverage on here) are specifically designed around the principle of weeding out campaign brochures. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 13:50, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

• Delete. A local politician with local news refs. Nothing doing here. Szzuk (talk) 19:09, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete: Fails WP:POLITICIAN as a local councillor and candidate. The individual points in what amounts to a CV are not in themselves sufficient for biographical notability, nor is the local media coverage; fails WP:ANYBIO. AllyD (talk) 06:12, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete fails WP:NOTEBLP for non-election coverage, fails WP:POLITICIAN as a candidate for the 2015 election. Just not enough significant coverage in indep. RS. --Bejnar (talk) 21:08, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete being a candidate is not notable. MilborneOne (talk) 12:37, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Spartaz ^Humbug! 16:21, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

K Rajagopal

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PROD contested without any explanation. The subject is a minor politician and fails WP:NPOLITICIAN and WP:GNG Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 14:08, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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May I know the exact reason for deletion?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.99.157.125 (talk) 20:13, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

In direct words, K Rajagopal is not important/famous enough to have an article on Wikipedia.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 01:35, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Comment as per WP:INDAFD K Rajagopal maybe notable. — CutestPenguin^Hangout 18:17, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

  We need to be careful in filtering out the citations. This K Rajagopal is alive and politician. The searh result you linked, shows many people with same name. For ex. the very 2nd citation is about some other guy who is now dead. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 22:52, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

• Keep, notable per coverage in major media, such as http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-kerala/rajagopal-elected-again/article1180682.ece , http://mathrubhuminews.in/ee/ReadMore/6825/paranari-remark-has-not-affected-kollam-k.rajagopal/E, http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-kerala/k-rajagopal-cpim-kollam-secretary/article1180542.ece , http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/kerala/article327520.ece , http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/thiruvananthapuram/CPM-CPI-panel-meetings-for-LS-polls-from-today/articleshow/31389770.cms , http://www.mathrubhumi.com/english/news/kerala/pinarayi-faction-grabs-kollam-in-neck-and-neck-race-118671.html etc --Soman (talk) 21:02, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete per WP:SIGCOV. Every news article I have seen on the subject has only a trivial mention of the subject, as in "This guy won an election. These other things also happened in the election." --Richard Yin (talk) 15:51, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete as per WP:V and WP:N, the subject seems to be notable in few sources which have conflict and confusion b/t the politician and actor. — CutestPenguin^Hangout 17:10, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

IF you feel to delete this article, go ahead. No issues. The person is a politician in state leval and in service for more than 40 years. All reference given are related to him only. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakeshrl (talk • contribs) 07:52, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Please dont blank or remove the deletion tag as you did with your recent edits [[44]] until the issue has been discussed. Thanks. Physicsmathftw (talk) 08:06, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. → Call me Hahc21 17:09, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

List of governors-general of King George V

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Other monarchs do not have similar pages and it's questionable how useful such a page would be. XinaNicole (talk) 01:49, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

• Delete fits nowhere. Name of article is incorrect. Content is unfortunate. Crusoe8181 (talk) 09:58, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
• Comment I have listed this AfD as it was never transcluded, and the heading was not added. Should be fine now, and run for seven days from today. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 14:37, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete - These offices have all their own articles/lists, like Governor-General of the Union of South Africa. It's not a good idea to separate some and then join with others in a random manner which has nothing to do with the encyclopedic subject. Kraxler (talk) 16:01, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete per WP:TNT. A list in theory might be created with such information, but this is a complete mess. Bearian (talk) 20:42, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was keep. → Call me Hahc21 17:07, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Mikaal Zulfiqar

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Deleted at AfD in 2011 and reposted within a couple of months, but too long ago to qualify for CSD G4. Lack of reliable sources and in any event, he appears to fail WP:NACTOR. Safiel (talk) 16:03, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep - Actor has worked in several films and television shows. --Captain Assassin! ^{«T ♦ C ♦ G»} 11:01, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep has a big fan base, and is prominent in commercials, so meets a couple of the WP:NACTOR. There are also some newspaper entries on him, of which I have added one, so GNG can apply too. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:14, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep per above - Passes GNG. –Davey2010 • (talk) 06:10, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

• Keep As added and cited a reliable sources by Graeme Bartlett, subject establishes the notability.Justice007 (talk) 07:29, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

• Keep Passes the criteria needs to be on wiki so that it can be edited by other users.. ARK (talk) 18:18, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. (soft) slakr^\ talk / 06:16, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

450cc motocross bike

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This is someone's research into engine size changes in motorcycles, with links taking us to the manufacturers website. WP:NOT Gbawden (talk) 15:00, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete per nom -- this would need a restart to correctly summarize the AMA Motocross 450 Class and 450 cc FIM MXGP. Agree that the citations given in the article are useless mfgr homepage links. — Brianhe (talk) 18:55, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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Keep - 450 appears to be a magic number in Motocross racing. This is not arbitrary research. ~KvnG 14:17, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

• Delete. This appears to me to be a textbook example of WP:SYNTH. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:44, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. → Call me Hahc21 16:44, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Camp Trotter

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outsourced, lacking notability Owais khursheed (talk) 02:33, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Comment. This article is a memorial for a soldier despite what the title says. I'm deletion sorting this accordingly. • Gene93k (talk) 02:49, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete. No idea what or where Camp Trotter is, as the article doesn't bother to say, but as the article is in reality only a WP:COATRACK memorial to a non-notable dead soldier, apparently by his father, this clearly fails notability guidelines. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:34, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete. Sorry but the soldier and the camp are not notable. QuiteUnusual (talk) 14:33, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete per Necrothesp Nick-D (talk) 07:37, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:16, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Basil Hood (pirate)

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Totally unsourced, possibly apocryphical and apparently unsourceable biography of what is either a character made up by Horrible Histories, or a figure so insignificant nobody has ever seen fit to write about him. Zero Google hits on either web or book search (there are a few false-positives on "Basil Hood pirate" as Basil Hood worked with Gilbert and Sullivan, the creators of Pirates of Penzance; everything else seems to trace back to HH). The whole story (as given here for instance) reeks of bullshit (pun intended). The idea that it's impossible to transport cattle by ship is obvious nonsense, as is the idea that a military officer would release a violent criminal because he smelled bad. I don't see how this can ever be a viable article unless someone can dig up a reliable source, and I certainly can't find a single one.  Mogism (talk) 16:38, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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Delete: I can't find any sources that would indicate notability, and it's not clear if this was a real person or just some type of urban legend/character. Schematica (talk) 02:39, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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Delete. If he is only known because of a comedy sketch ... And a pirate known for stealing cows? Postcard Cathy (talk)

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• Avast, matey, and shiver me timbers! Thar be not enough reliable sources for this lubber's scribbles. Delete thee article, then shave the scurvy dog's belly with a rusty razor! - Location (talk) 04:30, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Delete. Not notable and WP:RS problems. Kierzek (talk) 11:22, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker^talk 16:31, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Champagne Charlie (play)

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We cannot find any hard evidence that this play ever existed. Aristophanes68 (talk) 17:13, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

• Delete, or Refactor to represent the only successful play of this title, by Glyn Jones, which was first produced in 1984 and recently revived and videoed. That play is about the Leybourne/Vance rivalry, but it of course could not have inspired in any way the original screenplay of the 1944 film. The confusion of dates and storylines by the IP who created this article (the IP's only contribution to WP), was apparently either a mistake or deliberately misleading. Softlavender (talk) 18:41, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete. Borderline WP:CSD#A1 as it lacks sufficient context to identify the subject. No prejudice against a new article about a verifiable play of that title, per Softlavender. Pburka (talk) 16:48, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. → Call me Hahc21 16:11, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Raquel “Ra” Brown

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I know I'm going out on a limb here, but this subject doesn't appear to be remotely qualified for inclusion. Silverfish8088 (talk) 18:44, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete Agree with nominator, unfortunately, since her song here is fairly decent. Don't see the sources needed to meet WP:GNG.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 22:49, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete as sadly no evidence of notability. –Davey2010 • (talk) 06:13, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

• Delete for the reasons I gave at Talk:Raquel “Ra” Brown. The article itself essentially says that she's a local fixture, and I didn't find anything elsewhere that elevates her beyond that or that goes beyond the same sort of routine notices as the sources cited in the article. —Largo Plazo (talk) 19:40, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was keep. → Call me Hahc21 16:10, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

James Kiffe

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Fails GNG. I did a WP:BEFORE search on him and there is only 1 independent, feature story on him, which was from earlier this month. I want to point out in advance that I expect someone to say he passes WP:NSOCCER for "Players who have played, and managers who have managed in a fully professional league, will generally be regarded as notable" (he has appeared in 1 game, as of 9/22/14, in the USL Pro league). However, that mark of notability is a guideline and does not supercede GNG, which is the ultimate mark of notability. Nearly all of the gHits on Kiffe are social media-related, basic sports website rankings/playerfiles, WP:ROUTINE game coverage, and some aren't even independent sources (the UCSB school refs are for supporting purposes only, they cannot be used as primary sources). He may be notable next season, who knows, but right now, nope. Jrcla2 (talk) 02:11, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 08:34, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

• Keep - sorry, I'm an idiot, shouldn't edit first thing in the morning - yes, he meets WP:NFOOTBALL and is therefore notable. Needs improving to meet GNG, but that is not currently a reason to delete. GiantSnowman 20:41, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

• Actually, it is a reason to delete. He fails GNG, which is the ultimate threshold for notability, not a sports-specific guideline. Jrcla2 (talk) 12:22, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

• Keep or Modify AfD: I am wary that User:Jrcla2’s WP:BEFORE search did not reveal that Kiffe was inserted straight into the starting lineup after being signed at the end of the season and since his signing has played in 5 straight regular season matches plus Sacramento's first playoff match – not just the one as stated in the article. I am also wary that User:GiantSnowman is erroneously claiming a failed WP:NFOOTBALL, which is already clearly stated as passed in the original AfD nomination above that his response is in support of.

Additionally, I find it quite hypocritical that User:Jrcla2 seems to ignore WP:ATHLETE in this instance, however uses it as an argument in a separate article.

In any event, WP:GNG as always is the ultimate decider which Kiffe, in my opinion, seems to meet based on this and this and this and this and has various independent recognition of his play and talent.

However, if Kiffe is deemed non-notable by the masses, then I would modify current AfD to include collegiate soccer players who have relatively equivalent or lesser claims than Kiffe. A few soccer players who seem to be affected would include:

• César Díaz Pizarro
• Spencer Thompson
• George Malki
• Ryshiem Henderson
• Dakota Collins
• Mackenzie Pridham
• Benjamin Benditson
• Kevin Guppy
• Kyle Polak
• Aaron Long (soccer)
• Erasmo Solórzano
• Carlos Aguilar
• Andrew Fontein
• Marco Franco
• Tarek Morad
• Kenny Schoeni

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• WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS in response to all of the other names listed – those are case-by-case and have 0 bearing on this AfD. Per the sources listed, this is routine and about two players being selected in a draft, this is as routine as it gets, this is literally a list of many award winners (not an article about Kiffe), this falls under the same umbrella as the previous link which is a list of award winners and not about Kiffe, and this is a press release of award winners/not about Kiffe. The only sources that definitely counts is this, and the only other one that may pass is this. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:35, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

• Comment: I believe you have misinterpreted my comment above re: other players. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is used incorrectly most often when trying to argue to keep or delete something. That's not the case here. I am pointing out that: 1. "In consideration of precedent and consistency, though, identifying articles of the same nature that have been established and continue to exist on Wikipedia may provide extremely important insight into general notability of concepts, levels of notability (what's notable: international, national, regional, state, provincial?), and whether or not a level and type of article should be on Wikipedia." and 2. "... these comparisons are important as the encyclopedia should be consistent in the content that it provides or excludes.", both taken from WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS itself. The players above are not in support of keeping or deleting the Kiffe article, but provided as comparison to previous widely accepted thresholds. GauchoDude (talk) 16:34, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

• Keep - He has made four appearances in the USL Professional Division (a Fully Professional League) for Sacramento Republic FC which makes him pass WP:NFOOTBALL. James Kiffe is also notable per WP:GNG due to significant coverage in reliable independent sources. Evidence: a quick google news search. IJA (talk) 16:45, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
  • My argument is he fails WP:GNG, which supercedes any sub-specific guideline. Jrcla2 (talk) 17:03, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
    • Your point is already stated above. Additionally, you do not need to reply to multiple people with the same response. GauchoDude (talk) 17:17, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
      • I can state it to whomever I like, as many times as I like. Neither @IJA: nor @Rlendog: addressed my concern that I stated in the original nomination, which is why it was necessary to reiterate. Any closing admin on this AfD will see that their !votes didn't provide any substance to counter my nomination rationale. Jrcla2 (talk) 17:22, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
        • WP:GNG is a subsection of WP:NOTABILITY, however we also have WP:NSPORT to specifically determine whether or not a Sports-player/ Athlete is notable. However because you're obsessed with WP:GNG, I'm going to say that James Kiffe is notable per WP:GNG due to significant coverage in reliable independent sources. Evidence: a quick google news search. You will also notice that his coverage in these news sites aren't "routine" as you had previously stated. IJA (talk) 22:15, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
          • I must point out that in no way do the sports Notability guidelines supersede GNG. The SSGs are meant to help editors identify classes of articles that in all likelihood would meet GNG to avoid needless AfD discussions. For example, it is reasonable to assume that any English Premier League or Major League Baseball player will meet the minimum standard for GNG. But that doesn't mean the aren't exceptions - I have definitely seen articles deleted because they failed GNG but met the sport guideline. Rikster2 (talk) 00:15, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:NFOOTBALL Rlendog (talk) 16:53, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
  • My argument is he fails WP:GNG, which supercedes any sub-specific guideline. Jrcla2 (talk) 17:03, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
    • We have specific guidelines for a reason. Because there is a consensus that subjects that meet these guidelines are almost always notable, even if sources to demonstrate GNG are not always readily available, and so editors don't have to waste time debating the issue every time. So unless you have a particular reason why this subject is somehow especially different from the rest, meeting the specific guideline is fine. Rlendog (talk) 21:06, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep meets WP:NFOOTBALL. Needs improving. – Michael (talk) 19:21, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

• Keep meets GNG and FOOTY. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.147.104.153 (talk) 21:27, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Comment I don't have a lot of passion either way on this, but in have to say if WP:NFOOTBALL says that players who appear in one USL Pro game is notable, then that is an incredibly lax standard. It's a second/third tier league in a country that isn't that into soccer. I know because I live in a town with a franchise and they get less media coverage than the local single-A baseball team (let alone the D1 colleges within a 90 mile radius). How is footy so much less restrictive than other sport guidelines? What's next, all triple A baseball players and NBA D-Leaguers? Rikster2 (talk) 21:45, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Pointless comment that's not relevant for this discussion. 204.115.110.20 (talk) 22:47, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
    • Not really since the whole AfD is based on an editor's opinion of a gap between WP:FOOTY and GNG. Completely on point to suggest that the SSG may not hit the mark of identifying players who in most cases will meet GNG. But your comment did do a nice job of illustrating what a pointless comment is, albeit not in the way you intended. Rikster2 (talk) 00:10, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
      • Football is a global game and is the most popular sport in clearly over 170 countries and receives more media coverage than any other sport or even all sports combined.It cannot compared even remotely be compared with Baseball ,American Football or even Basketball in a Global perspective through what you wrote may be true in an American perspective.it is most popular sport in countries from Germany No 1 to Nicaragua ranked 170 or Eritrea 204 Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 12:30, 24 September 2014 (UTC) ,
        • Yes, football is a global game, but its popularity in every country is not the same. I would fully accept that a "fully professional" player appearing in at least one game in football-mad England, Spain, Italy, etc would meet GNG. However, in the US, third-division level players do not receive the level of press to satisfy GNG across the board. The standard applies a broad brush stroke that is not correct in all cases. News flash - basketball is also a global sport. But players in the top league in England don't enjoy the level of news coverage to be expected to satisfy GNG across the board, but in Italy or Spain you can bet the top division players do (and this context is what WP:NBASKETBALL tries to convey). Hence my point. Rikster2 (talk) 14:23, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep passes WP:NFOOTBALL.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:59, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep - Passes WP:NFOOTY. Fenix down (talk) 13:53, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
• Comment - there's a whole lot of voting going on here and not much countering to my AfD proposal. At least User:IJA acknowledged it and rebutted. I hope the closing admin considers this, regardless of what their ultimate decision is. Jrcla2 (talk) 19:45, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Citing a WP:NFOOTBALL, which is itself a guideline, is more than a vote. Just because you don't like the guideline doesn't make it otherwise. Rlendog (talk) 21:08, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
    • NFOOTY is a widely agreed upon consensus for notability. I would recommend you check the Deletion Archive for hundreds of examples of its application in similar circumstances. Fenix down (talk) 09:06, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep based on some of the sources put forth by GauchoDude, I think he is (barely) notable. However, all of you citing FOOTY as the reason need to re-read the preamble for WP:NSPORTS and the top of the list of professional leagues because both are clear that they do not in and of themselves constitute notability. The user who said that the criteria listed therein are meant to show those who are "more than likely" would meet GNG was correct, but I would again argue that USL Pro does not achieve that, whether or not it is "fully professional." Are we saying that ANYONE who has played even a game in that league is more than likely notable? Because I would challenge that based on being in a USL Pro market and seeing the actual level of coverage for this minor league. In my opinion, that shouldn't be in the guideline and takes away credibility from WP:NFOOTY. Rikster2 (talk) 10:52, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep - I have absolutely no comprehension why User:Jrcla2 created this AFD. WP:NOTE clearly states that an article is meritable if it either meets WP:GNG or it meets a one of the subject-specific guidlines that are listed - one of which is WP:NSPORT. I believe everyone agrees that the article meets WP:NSPORT (specifically it meets WP:NFOOTY). How then, is there any basis for deletion? It's not even a borderline, played once for 5 minutes; he's a current player whose has had 4 recent starts [45]. Though even if he had 0 starts, how does he not meet WP:GNG with detailed newspaper articles all about him [46]? Nfitz (talk) 22:49, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. → Call me Hahc21 16:08, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Alice McCleary

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NN businessperson, sufficiently NN we don't even know her date, year, or place of birth, e.g. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:56, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete fails WP:BIO. the only article that links to her is Resources Industry Development Board. LibStar (talk) 02:32, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete per above - Fails BIO. –Davey2010 • (talk) 06:14, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Delete, if we can't even verify basic information about this living person, as listed by nominator, we have no business trying to write a biography on them. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 09:56, 28 September 2014 (UTC).

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The result was keep. → Call me Hahc21 16:06, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

34th Street Wall

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Does not appear to meet WP:NOTABILITY. Google Books showed up nothing and although Google News had several hits, it is coverage in the local newspaper. Possibly worth a redirect/merge to Gainseville. Has been tagged for notability for over a year. Boleyn (talk) 19:24, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep - The Tampa Bay Times and The Gainesville Sun articles already in the article are very good in-depth examples of coverage. Also the The Independent Florida Alligator and WCJB-TV give good coverage. [47][48] There is nothing in WP:GNG which stipulates the banning of articles that have "local" coverage or discounting such coverage. Gainesville isn't "local" to the Tampa Bay anyway. --Oakshade (talk) 15:12, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

• Keep The wonderful photo is enough to warrant a page but there seems to be plenty of text coverage in books too. Andrew (talk) 18:15, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep per everyone and surprisingly Andrew - I never thought in my entire life I would say this but the images are enough to warrant an article.... –Davey2010 • (talk) 04:03, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus. Spartaz ^Humbug! 16:22, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Georgi Adamia

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested by the article's creator because he played in the Azerbaijan top division. Since that league is not confirmed as fully pro, playing in it does not confer notability. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:19, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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I am tired of wikipedians proposing to delete articles that they personally consider they could do without. Your assertion is wrong. WP:GNG does not mention anything about fully professional leagues. Also, you must back up your belittling claims with reliable sources about the Azerbaijan league, when you claim that it is not worth any attention. Otherwise, I can reasonably assume that this deletion is made for some kind of personal reasons.--BoguSlav 19:33, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Boguslav - way to AGF. Fenix down (talk) 13:29, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 06:49, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep - Passes WP:GNG based on multiple appearances in notable stages of UEFA Intertoto Cup and the UEFA Europa League. IJA (talk) 09:30, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

The Intertoto Cup was little more than glorified qualifying rounds for the UEFA Cup/Europa League and playing in it at any stage does not confer notability. Though best I can tell he never played in this competition making this a moot point. Moreover, he never played in the group stage of the Europa League or Champions League, which are the only stages of European competition which do confer notability. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:28, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

• Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. Has not played in any non-qulifying rounds of European competition either, standard non-notable journeyman footballer. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 13:29, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
  • please provide at least SOME proof that he has never played in a fully professional league. Otherwise, these discussions are purely your opinion. Give a credible source saying that the Azerbaijan league is not professional.--BoguSlav 02:31, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
    • As sensible as that is, it doesn't unfortunately work that way. This could simply be resolved if User:Boguslavmandzyuk were to simply provide a reference that the league is fully professional. Surely the local media must discuss things like that from time-to-time. Nfitz (talk) 21:41, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep because none of the deletionists has given any reliable sources for their reasons to delete. --BoguSlav 02:31, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

The reason to delete here is the absence of reliable sources. Joe Decker sums the situation up nicely in his closing remarks in an AfD concerning another Azeri footballer:

In this instance, NFOOTY gives a plainly ambiguous result. Having looked to the April discussion at WT:NFOOTY, I find that while there was a consensus to remove the [Azerbaijan Premier] League from the [List of fully professional leagues], I do not see that there is a consensus about whether the league is or isn't fully-professional, it is instead simply so far unverified either way. We don't know...In addition, SNGs in general and NFOOTY in particular is usually, as a matter of textual interpretation, treated as putting the burden of proof on those wishing to show notability via the criteria, which further reduced the weight of keep arguments based on NFOOTY.

Simply put it is the absence of reliable sources concerning the professional standing of the Azerbaijan Premier League that means the article fails WP:NFOOTY and the absence of significant coverage in reliable sources that means the article fails WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 04:04, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

• Keep Passes WP:GNG the player was the top scorer in the Azerbaijan Premier League in 2010-2011 season and top scorer in the Commonwealth of Independent States Cup in 2005 an annual regional football tournament, recognized by FIFA and was part of the winning team in 2006.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 10:56, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

As Bogslav pointed out in their first comment, WP:GNG doesn't mention anything about particular footballing accomplishments. They are only relevant to general notability if they have generated significant coverage, which does not appear to be the case here. The sources listed in the article are routine sports journalism that one would expect to find even for footballers well below the threshold of notability. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:47, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

• Keep With 7 Champions League appearances and 22 Europa League appearances over the last decade, and being the top goalscorer in the top league in a country where football is the top sport, it's inconceivable that if one had access to local press, that there wouldn't be abundant evidence to meet WP:GNG. To suggest deletion of this article is an extreme example of WP:BIAS. Nfitz (talk) 21:41, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. postdlf (talk) 14:54, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Comparison of dvd ripper for mac

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WP is WP:NOT a shopping guide, a product brief, nor a critique of software site. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:18, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete- This article is full of original research and its topic is not suitable for an encyclopedia. Reyk _YO! 02:57, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete- comparison articles/tables can be useful when the compared items are notable/have their own wp articles. This is not the case here. Essentially unreferenced OR/Synth comparison of non-notable software, that is itself non-notable.Dialectric (talk) 13:49, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. → Call me Hahc21 16:05, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Gary Stackhouse

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WP:BLP, relying entirely on primary sources with not a shred of reliable source coverage in sight, of a person notable only as a local radio personality in a single media market. This is not a notability claim that gets a person into Wikipedia, needless to say — a broadcaster with anything short of a national platform has to be sourced well enough to get over WP:GNG, which this isn't. It's also a likely WP:COI, as the original creator was User:Gary550 — which isn't a deletion rationale in and of itself, I know, but does confirm that the intent here was likely advertorial rather than encyclopedic. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 01:57, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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Speedy Delete. We should be careful about assuming WP:COI but I think this is promotional in nature and can be speedily deleted per WP:G11. Tchaliburton (talk) 02:15, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 18:49, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

ELVA - (mobile platform)

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NN. Name dropping, but alas, working with some famous group doesn't make you notable. No other indicators that this is notable. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:49, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete per nom. —Swpb^talk 22:52, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was redirect to Timothy Hwang . j⚛e decker^talk 16:15, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

FiscalNote

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NN software company. It claims some notable users, a notable investor, but notability isn't inherited from those. No showing that this company is notable. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:07, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete per nominator's argument. —Swpb^talk 22:58, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Redirect To Timothy Hwang for now. I think this has the potential to become notable, although it barely breaches GNG at the moment. Perhaps later it can be expanded once it receives more coverage. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 19:09, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was keep. → Call me Hahc21 16:01, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Nebraska Rural Radio Association

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No indication that this organization is notable. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:37, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep. Seems to be a media entity of statewide significance in Nebraska, and the founder's death in 2004 was covered in news obits around the country. Examples of coverage: [49] [50] [51] [52] Could consider possible merger with KRVN (AM), the flagship station, but this network seems to be real enough and long-lived enough that I'd lean toward keeping this article separate. --Arxiloxos (talk) 17:27, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep as subject appears to cross the verifiability and notability thresholds. - Dravecky (talk) 06:56, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was delete. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 18:49, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Nata con Fresas (song)

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Utterly non-notable song, with no references. —Swpb^talk 23:47, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

• comment Looking on Google I cannot find any reliable sources. I have been removing lyrics as there is likely an infringement if they are here.Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:04, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete as no evidence of any notability. –Davey2010 • (talk) 01:46, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result was keep--Ymblanter (talk) 06:37, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

List of Google Doodles (1998–2009)

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WP:LISTCRUFT of Google logo#Google Doodles that have appeared on the site between 1998 and 2009. While the official Google logo meets WP:N, individual daily iterations that follow pop culture, political or social trends do not meet WP:N. Any individual doodles of significance are mentioned in the Google Doodles section of the Google logo article. The article does include references for some of the doodles, the bulk of content is unsourced, especially those beyond 2001. AldezD (talk) 00:00, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

WP:WEBCRIT states "The content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself." Although some of the Doodles listed in List of Google Doodles (1998–2009) in are referenced, the List of Google Doodles (1998–2009)#References listed are largely verification of the Doodle that appeared on a specific day; these references are not WP:SIGCOV of each individual Doodle.

I am also nominating the following related pages because the articles feature the same issues listed above:

List of Google Doodles in 2010 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

List of Google Doodles in 2011 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

List of Google Doodles in 2012 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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• Keep, this has been the source of a multitude of discussion in numerous secondary sources. — Cirt (talk) 00:26, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep per Cirt. Often Google doodles have wide coverage in news sources all over the world (depending where they are shown), and in fact almost every single time there is a Doodle, one or more news outlets will post some sort of story on it. Maybe more sources need to be added to these articles, but I think the lists should all stay. Crumpled Fire (talk) 05:19, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep for reasons already given. VMS Mosaic (talk) 05:51, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep all per Cirt. One user's "cruft" is another user's notable cultural material. Google Doodles are the subject of consistent attention. (My GNews search a few seconds ago for "Google doodle" yielded 10,800 hits.) A few random selections, found very quickly, of articles discussing the Google Doodle conceptually, as a marketing tool: [53] [54] [55] --Arxiloxos (talk) 16:56, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep for reasons already given. --Allexkoch (talk) 08:43, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
• Keep all for same reason. No question that these are the subject of massive public attention and interest, and often significant works of art in their own right. Blythwood (talk) 12:11, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

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